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Offline Durham

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The invincible Leo
« on: January 12, 2015, 05:18:39 AM »
Bobas commanded a Leopard 2A5A1-DK in a head-to-head mission on Jan 11th, 2015.  Below is the evidence of the punishment diesen Deutschen can take from the American peashooters:

First hit - TOW to top of turret



Next hits - multiple from Bradley APFDS-T





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And there were seven more Bradley hits, after which the Leo turned its turret and destroyed the Bradley with one shot:



Now the SEPs



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A second SEP starts pouring on the heat, but die Deustchen stay cool, because it's another AirSoft pellet gun:



The first SEP to engage gets a hit on the turret:



And the second another one on the cupola:



After which, he turns again and puts the Yankee dog out of action with one quick shot - kepowwww!! - "Gott im Himmel diesen amerikanischen Panzerkampfwagen sind aus Glas gemacht"



And then the first hits him in the wheel - destroyed at last - endlich die Deutschen sind tod



So, to sum up 1xTOW, 7x 25mm cannon (sabot) followed by 5x APFDS (SEP) after which the final Sabot destroyed the invincible tank.

Has anyone seen "Fury" where three Shermans go up against a Tiger?  Seem familiar??

ESim Games, we should be told.

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Offline Cougar11

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Re: The invincible Leo
« Reply #1 on: January 12, 2015, 04:12:50 PM »
I do understand your frustration with this.

Looking at the shots the TOW seemed like a direct hit instead of top down. The model shows it going through the back side, but passes through to the turret. If the round actually hit the turret, I can understand not much or no damage. You may want to look at the line of sight on the round to make sure it actually hit the hull.
25mm is not going to do a whole lot of damage, and from the rounds that landed I can see that the only thing that should have bee damaged should have bee the commanders thermal sight.

The first shot by the SEP should have done more damage than light, and only what was already damaged.
The second does a lot of damage by killing  crew, radio, and other light damage. You could argue that it should have done more, but it did do damage.
The third looks as if it should have either knocked out the gun, or knocked it out and hit the hull.
From what I have read about the SB damage model, the second shot in the same or near same spot in the side of the turret for this fourth shot, should have done major damage as most of the area was already hit, and the armor would have been less effective.
The fifth shot hits in the lower hull, in the front where the ammo is, and that is why it was destroyed.

I do agree that it is odd that a tank could have taken that many rounds in the places it did, and survived to fire and kill after a TOW, and four sabot rounds hit it.

I guess we will have to play with more skill until the armor model is fixed from the version.  :-[ that may be a harder task for some including me.  :'(
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Offline Asid

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Re: The invincible Leo
« Reply #2 on: January 13, 2015, 12:37:01 AM »
The AAR can sometimes show a different hit location to what actually happened i believe.
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