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New SOW Waterloo Toolbar (DOW Toolbar)

Started by Asid, January 22, 2017, 09:32:33 PM

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roy64

The toolbar is coming along quite nicely, I really like the marching music but it seems a bit quiet to me. The first thing I noticed was you don't have the TC on/TC off all subordinates & the take charge of officers buttons, for me they are some of the most important commands on a toolbar.

General Sandman

Not sure, if I understood your point correctly, but yesterday when playing MP at DoW event, the flag icons to switch the AI control for commanders and batallions/esquadrons on/off were still there in the toolbar.
Upper left corner of the command buttons above the buggle.



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roy64

Quote from: General Sandman on December 09, 2017, 01:24:14 PM
Not sure, if I understood your point correctly, but yesterday when playing MP at DoW event, the flag icons to switch the AI control for commanders and batallions/esquadrons on/off were still there in the toolbar.
Upper left corner of the command buttons above the buggle.

Yes there is one button to TC the selected Commander but no TC on/TC off all subordinates & the take charge of officers buttons.

General Sandman

Quote from: roy64 on December 09, 2017, 01:57:35 PM
Quote from: General Sandman on December 09, 2017, 01:24:14 PM
Not sure, if I understood your point correctly, but yesterday when playing MP at DoW event, the flag icons to switch the AI control for commanders and batallions/esquadrons on/off were still there in the toolbar.
Upper left corner of the command buttons above the buggle.

Yes there is one button to TC the selected Commander but no TC on/TC off all subordinates & the take charge of officers buttons.


I might not know these functions. In which toolbar are those available?



Who we were

"We were the ones who knew but did not understand, well informed but without insight, overloaded with factual data but poor in experience and wisdom. So we went, not stopped by ourselves."

Based on Roger Willemsen R.I.P.

Biondo

It's in the Grog toolbar.

Actually the way to do this with our mod is via the keyboard, IIRC 8, 9 and 0 are the key.

I will add in the next version of the toolbar as buttons.

Thanks for the feedback :thumbsup

roy64

Quote from: Biondo on December 09, 2017, 02:48:22 PM
It's in the Grog toolbar.

Actually the way to do this with our mod is via the keyboard, IIRC 8, 9 and 0 are the key.

I will add in the next version of the toolbar as buttons.

Thanks for the feedback :thumbsup

That's what I call good service, thank you.  :thumbsup Now to push my luck is it possible to increase the volume of the marching music. :-[

General Sandman

Quote from: roy64 on December 09, 2017, 03:04:47 PM
Quote from: Biondo on December 09, 2017, 02:48:22 PM
It's in the Grog toolbar.

Actually the way to do this with our mod is via the keyboard, IIRC 8, 9 and 0 are the key.

I will add in the next version of the toolbar as buttons.

Thanks for the feedback :thumbsup


That's what I call good service, thank you.  :thumbsup Now to push my luck is it possible to increase the volume of the marching music. :-[

Did you try game-main-menu/options/page 3 already?



Who we were

"We were the ones who knew but did not understand, well informed but without insight, overloaded with factual data but poor in experience and wisdom. So we went, not stopped by ourselves."

Based on Roger Willemsen R.I.P.

Asid

Quote from: roy64 on December 09, 2017, 03:04:47 PM

That's what I call good service, thank you.  :thumbsup Now to push my luck is it possible to increase the volume of the marching music. :-[

Hi Roy

I am glad you like the toolbar. We welcome and encourage input from the community. The toolbar is not complete and is constantly being improved.

As for the marching music, we are adjusting the levels to get a good balance. Norbsoft removed the slider which enabled adjustment from the menu a while back.

We have a great multiplayer community. Feel free to join us  :thumbsup


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Biondo

Roy, do you mean low volume when you are very close to a battalion (so full volume) or when a battalion is marching far away from you? Do you feel marching music volume is lower than other sounds in game?

Marching music is something quite difficult to balance. If you raise up too much the volume you can notice bad sounds and music overlapping during the game which is quite annoying, too low and you have some moment where you can't hear nothing which is bad too. It's possible to increase volume only using an external program. The file which identify sounds in game only permits to lower volume. In game it's not possible at all but we're talking about something which was not designed to work the way it's working in the mod.

The way marching musics were designed was different. In Gettysburg (in Waterloo wasn't implemented but the basics were the same as Gettysburg) when you ordered a brigade to march and hit Using Road button, a music starts and loops until they march on the road. You can only enable/disable without have the possibility to increase/decrease volume.

I found that it's possible to have things works exactly as in Gettysburg but the problem is that you can't have specific marching music for different units but only generics one.

Of course everything can be improved ;)

roy64

Quote from: Biondo on December 09, 2017, 06:17:40 PM
Roy, do you mean low volume when you are very close to a battalion (so full volume) or when a battalion is marching far away from you? Do you feel marching music volume is lower than other sounds in game?

Marching music is something quite difficult to balance. If you raise up too much the volume you can notice bad sounds and music overlapping during the game which is quite annoying, too low and you have some moment where you can't hear nothing which is bad too. It's possible to increase volume only using an external program. The file which identify sounds in game only permits to lower volume. In game it's not possible at all but we're talking about something which was not designed to work the way it's working in the mod.

The way marching musics were designed was different. In Gettysburg (in Waterloo wasn't implemented but the basics were the same as Gettysburg) when you ordered a brigade to march and hit Using Road button, a music starts and loops until they march on the road. You can only enable/disable without have the possibility to increase/decrease volume.

I found that it's possible to have things works exactly as in Gettysburg but the problem is that you can't have specific marching music for different units but only generics one.

Of course everything can be improved ;)

Low volume when you are very close to a battalion. It seems low compared to say cavalry or artillery.

Biondo

Ok, do you noticed this for a specific side/unit or for every side?

roy64


roy64

Quote from: Asid on December 09, 2017, 03:39:03 PM
Quote from: roy64 on December 09, 2017, 03:04:47 PM

That's what I call good service, thank you.  :thumbsup Now to push my luck is it possible to increase the volume of the marching music. :-[

Hi Roy

I am glad you like the toolbar. We welcome and encourage input from the community. The toolbar is not complete and is constantly being improved.

As for the marching music, we are adjusting the levels to get a good balance. Norbsoft removed the slider which enabled adjustment from the menu a while back.

We have a great multiplayer community. Feel free to join us  :thumbsup
Are all your multiplayer games HITS.

Biondo

Yes, HITS and couriers.

But if you don't like this way to play it's possible to schedule the battle you prefer here and see if someone wants to join. On steam there are other guys looking for   bird eye view game. I or you can make a post there to see what happens.

We wants to encourage everyone to play with the preferred style  :thumbsup

General Sandman

BTW, when playing HITS, you probably dont want the marching music to be of higher volume, cos you are often the closest possible to the batallions.
When side by side to a friendly general and simulating a verbal communication on the field by TS-whisper-channel, I indeed had problems to understand the otherone properly because of the pipers and drummers.



Who we were

"We were the ones who knew but did not understand, well informed but without insight, overloaded with factual data but poor in experience and wisdom. So we went, not stopped by ourselves."

Based on Roger Willemsen R.I.P.