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Title: D.O.W. Saturday Mission 10/10/15:DOW North Korea Invasion 2015
Post by: assassin7 on October 06, 2015, 05:17:24 AM
D.O.W. Saturday Mission 10/10/15 @ GMT21:00

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DOW North Korea Invasion 2015 by Assassin 7
 

This scenario is a simulation and does not have any political message.

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Mission Summary :

North v South. Will the attack come? Where will it come? Many questions. One answer. Destroy the aggressor!
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Map
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Excerpts of the battalion commander's (HAVOC 6) orders for...BLUEFOR (D.O.W.)

1) SITUATION:
Excerpts of the battalion commander's orders for...
 
   a) Enemy:
                 Historically, Pyongyang's foremost goal has been the reunification of the Korean Peninsula on North Korean terms. The regimes constitution describes reunification as “the supreme national task, ”2 and it remains a consistently pervasive theme in North Korean media. However, despite what the North Koreans have continued to tell we for the past five decades, outside observers and specialists differ greatly over exactly what North Korea's goals really are.

Since at least the mid-1990s, there has been a widespread view among Korea observers that, because of severe economic decline, food shortages, and related problems, regime survival has replaced reunification as Pyongyang's most pressing objective. Further, these observers argue, despite its rhetoric, North Korea realizes that reunification through conquest of South Korea is no longer possible. There are also some who argue that the North Korean leadership has recognized the need to initiate substantial change in order to survive in the international community and is embarking on economic reform, reconciliation with South Korea, and reduction of military tensions. In addition to the goals of regime survival, reform, and reconciliation, there is another explanatory view of North Korea's foremost national goal that has been held by a minority of observers for several decades (and has been a consistent theme of North Korean).

North Korea's military strategy is offensive and is designed to provide a military option to achieve reunification by force employing surprise, overwhelming firepower, and speed. It is shaped by the regimes militarist ideology and the strong influence of Soviet and Russian military thinking with historical roots in the Korean nationalist resistance against Japanese colonialism, the Korean experience in the Chinese Civil War, and international events of the early Cold War years as interpreted by the late Kim Il Sung. Continued emphasis on maintaining this strategy, despite severe economic decline, suggests that Pyongyang continues to perceive an offensive military strategy as a viable option for ensuring regime survival and realizing reunification on North Korean terms. The offensive character of Pyongyang's military strategy is demonstrated by the organization and deployment of its forces. The primary instrument of this strategy is North Korea's armed forces, known collectively as the Korean People's Army (KPA).

The KPA of 2003 is an imposing and formidable force of 1.17 million active personnel with a reserve force of over 5 million, making it the fifth largest military force in the world. The ground forces are organized into eight infantry corps, four mechanized corps, an armor corps, and two artillery corps. The KPA air force consists of 92,000 personnel, and is equipped with some 730 mostly older combat aircraft and 300 helicopters. The 46,000-man KPA navy is primarily a coastal force.25 additionally, the KPA maintains the largest special operations force (SOF) in the world, consisting of approximately 100,000 highly trained, totally dedicated soldiers. A long history of bloody incursions into South Korea underscores the offensive mission of this force.
The overwhelming majority of active ground forces is deployed in three echelons forward operational echelon of four infantry corps; supported by a second operational echelon of two mechanized corps, the armor corps, and an artillery corps; and a strategic reserve of the two remaining mechanized corps and the other artillery corps. These forces are garrisoned along major north-south lines of communication that provide rapid, easy access to avenues of approach into South Korea. The KPA has positioned massive numbers of artillery pieces, especially its longer-range systems, close to the Demilitarized Zone (DMZ) that separates the two Koreas. Soviet concepts of deep operations required the employment of air forces capable of achieving air superiority and air-deliverable ground forces; lacking the resources to produce or deploy such forces, the KPA compensated by greatly increasing deployment of conventional cannon and rocket artillery and tactical and strategic SOF.

Key elements of Pyongyang's military strategy include the employment of weapons of mass destruction, including nuclear (as recently revealed by Pyongyang), and missile systems including short- and medium-range and probably intercontinental missiles. The commander of US forces in Korea assesses that North Korea has large chemical weapon stockpiles, is self-sufficient in the production of chemical agents, and may have produced enough plutonium for at. Least two nuclear weapons. North Korea has now demonstrated the capability to strike targets throughout the entire territory of the Republic of Korea (ROK) and Japan, as well as large portions of China and Russia. In an attack on South Korea, Pyongyang could use its missiles in an attempt to isolate the peninsula from strategic reinforcement and intimidate or punish Japan. North Korea's inventory of ballistic missiles includes over 500 SCUD short-range ballistic missiles that can hit any target in South Korea and medium-range No Dong missiles capable of reaching Japan and the US bases there. While they have not flight-tested long-range missiles at least, in North Korea they have continued research, development, and rocket engine testing.

Although this is an offensive strategy, there are defensive aspects to it. An army must protect its flanks whether attacking or defending. This principle takes on added importance for a peninsular state such as Korea. Both geography and history have taught the North Koreans the vital necessity of protecting their coasts; during the Korean War, United Nations forces conducted two major amphibious operations in Korea, one on each coast. The KPA continues to improve coastal defenses, especially in the forward area. They have established or strengthened air defense positions around airfields, near major ports, and along the primary highway between Pyongyang and the DMZ. Additionally, there is a corps-size capital defense command responsible for the defense of Pyongyang. However; KPA force deployment lacks defensive depth at the operational level of war. The North Koreans have not constructed defensive belts across the peninsula similar to Forward Edge of the Battle Area (FEBA) Alfa, Bravo, and Charlie in South Korea. While there are local defensive positions along lines of communication and key intersections manned by local militia and reserve units, they have not established an operational-level network of defensive strong points interlocked with obstacles and planned defensive fires. The forward-deployed artillery is sufficiently close to the DMZ that, in a defensive role, it would be vulnerable to surprise and early destruction by attack from South Korea.

Taken together, these facts strengthen the judgment that Pyongyang's military strategy is not defensive but offensive. A strong argument can probably also be made that North Korean military strategy would remain offensive even if defense against a feared attack replaced reunification as the foremost goal of the regime. North Korea's militarist culture advocates offense as the most effective means of defense. The North Koreans may attack at any moment so be ready for anything.
 
b) Own:

[Dogs of War Company has been training in South Korea stationed at Camp Casey for the last 2 years, they are ready to defend off any enemy force that is encounter and help protect the people of South Korea and enforce their safety. Dogs of War Company consists of 2 platoons of M1A2 SEP's, 1 platoon of Challenger 2's and 1 platoon of Leopard 2a5's. The Dogs of War Company also has 3 platoons of IFV's, 2 platoons of M2A2's, 1 platoon of CV 90/40's with spike, TOW and javelin teams. ]

Task Organization
2x PLT M1A2 SEP
1x PLT LEO 2A5
1x PLT CHALLENGER 2
2X PLT M2A2
1x PLT CV90 40-C
1x PLT SUPPORT ELEMENTS ( M88, Supply, Fuel, Medic )
 
c) Attachments and detachments:

[2 AH-64 attack helicopters, 2 UH-61 Blackhawk Helicopters, Support elements and Arty]
 
2) MISSION:

[Dogs of War Company is to move and help secure Bridge 1 and Bridge 2, Provide over watch and engage and destroy any enemy that is encountered. ]
 
3) EXECUTION: 
Orders will be given by the Commanding Officer.

Mission Made by: Assassin7

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** Notes **
SB Version: 3.028 32bit/64bit
Mission Name:DOW North Korea Invasion 2015
Created by: Assassin7
Modified by: N/A
Multi-Crew: Yes
Single Crew: Yes
Largest command: 1 Company
Smallest command:Crew Position
Mission Duration: 60-120 minutes depending on players and progress.
Minimum number players: 4
Date: Saturday Mission 10/10/15
Time: 21:00 GMT
Time (local): Click here (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=DOW+Saturday+Steel+Beasts+Meeting&iso=20151010T21&p1=1440&ah=2)
Teamspeak  IP: 74.91.127.204 wait in lobby for access to other areas.
Room: Dogs of War


Player Skill/Ability:
•   Completion of at least 1 full tutorial of Leo2A5 or M1A2Sep, preferred also M2A2 and or CV-90.
•   Working knowledge of Comms procedure.

Dogs Of War Vehicles : (in mission)

M1A2 SEP:
http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbwiki/index.php?title=M1A2_(SEP) (http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbwiki/index.php?title=M1A2_(SEP))

LEO 2A5
http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbwiki/index.php?title=Leopard_2A5 (http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbwiki/index.php?title=Leopard_2A5)

Challenger2
http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbwiki/index.php?title=Challenger_2 (http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbwiki/index.php?title=CHALLENGER2)

M2A2
http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbwiki/index.php?title=M2A2 (http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbwiki/index.php?title=M2A2)

CV90/40-C
http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbwiki/index.php?title=CV_90/40-C (http://www.steelbeasts.com/sbwiki/index.php?title=CV_90/40-C)



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Title: Re: D.O.W. Saturday Mission 10/10/15:DOW North Korea Invasion 2015
Post by: Apocalypse31 on October 06, 2015, 11:39:43 PM
Assasin,

I love you

but its not 1998 anymore.

http://imgur.com/
Title: Re: D.O.W. Saturday Mission 10/10/15:DOW North Korea Invasion 2015
Post by: Cougar11 on October 07, 2015, 01:24:10 AM
Your right. Things would be much better if it was still 1998!!  8)
Title: Re: D.O.W. Saturday Mission 10/10/15:DOW North Korea Invasion 2015
Post by: Apocalypse31 on October 07, 2015, 04:20:58 PM
I'll command this one.

Need an A CO CDR and a B CO CDR.
Title: Re: D.O.W. Saturday Mission 10/10/15:DOW North Korea Invasion 2015
Post by: Renders on October 07, 2015, 04:59:57 PM
Wow! That's an amazing preview man! Definitely we've got some of the best scenario makers around here. I'd like very much to sign as co but I'll be working and probably i'm not up to it.
Anyway i hope to be there in T.A.N.K.S. the next day..


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Title: Re: D.O.W. Saturday Mission 10/10/15:DOW North Korea Invasion 2015
Post by: Cougar11 on October 07, 2015, 11:40:37 PM
From what I am reading, and the color of units, that all green units are AI controlled, and that we only have the 5 platoons plus attachments. I will step up and command a platoon for you.  8)
Title: Re: D.O.W. Saturday Mission 10/10/15:DOW North Korea Invasion 2015
Post by: Apocalypse31 on October 08, 2015, 12:19:16 AM
From what I am reading, and the color of units, that all green units are AI controlled, and that we only have the 5 platoons plus attachments. I will step up and command a platoon for you.  8)

There are 2 companies - A and B

A is tank heavy 4x PLT (M1A2 / Leo)
B is PC heavy 3x PLT (Brads / CV90s)
Title: Re: D.O.W. Saturday Mission 10/10/15:DOW North Korea Invasion 2015
Post by: Cougar11 on October 08, 2015, 02:06:28 AM
Well I guess you have more information then I do. I could not see that from the pictures, or from the briefing.  :( I will take what is needed, after other who might actually read this post, and possibly decide to take a position.  :o
Title: Re: D.O.W. Saturday Mission 10/10/15:DOW North Korea Invasion 2015
Post by: Colebrook on October 08, 2015, 01:22:41 PM
This weekend I'm going on trip so I will not be able to join DOW or TANKS missions. Have fun and save the AARs for me pls.
Title: Re: D.O.W. Saturday Mission 10/10/15:DOW North Korea Invasion 2015
Post by: Cougar11 on October 09, 2015, 05:37:35 AM
Knowing that at least 2 people from the group will not be there this weekend,we might play a different mission depending on how many show up. If we do, we will be posting the mission again with a manning roster.

Large mission future -
I would like to propose the following. 

Large missions that require or are best played with more than 6-8 or more, will be set up with a post with a manning roster started. The mission will stay up with dates till enough people are signed up for a specific date. Until enough have it will continue to roll from week to week till there is enough.

I am going to post this in a separate thread too. http://dogsofwarvu.com/forum/index.php/topic,1193.0.html (http://dogsofwarvu.com/forum/index.php/topic,1193.0.html)
Title: Re: D.O.W. Saturday Mission 10/10/15:DOW North Korea Invasion 2015
Post by: Lumituisku on October 09, 2015, 01:58:22 PM

I will try to take part on this one too.  Cannot yet promise for 100%  but I want to play on this weekend. I really enjoed last saturdays game.

Sincerely ~ Lumi
Title: Re: D.O.W. Saturday Mission 10/10/15:DOW North Korea Invasion 2015
Post by: Lusik on October 09, 2015, 02:32:27 PM
I'd love to play this mission but I'm not sure yet if I'll be able to make it.
Title: Re: D.O.W. Saturday Mission 10/10/15:DOW North Korea Invasion 2015
Post by: Lumituisku on October 09, 2015, 02:35:01 PM
Great briefing of the mission Assasin! And very great that there seem to be vehicles for a bit of everyone's taste.

I will definately look to be in cv9040, and infantry. That seems to be my calling. ^^     as well as recon missions.
Title: Re: D.O.W. Saturday Mission 10/10/15:DOW North Korea Invasion 2015
Post by: Cougar11 on October 10, 2015, 09:19:12 PM
I will not be able to make it now. Was looking forward to this one. If something changes I will let you know, but it's doubtful. Again if there is not enough players for this mission, we do have a backup mission that apocalypse has or knows about.

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Title: Re: D.O.W. Saturday Mission 10/10/15:DOW North Korea Invasion 2015
Post by: Lumituisku on October 11, 2015, 12:48:38 AM

I think there was really some trouble with enemy artillery having no effect to our units.

I clearly saw many many times either my units or other friendlies being under artillery.. and nothing. Not even my infantry while they were middle of HE barrage.  That is so weird, especially when there was so much of artillery.  And most of damage came from enemy tanks?  Or artillery that was right at the start of the mission.

There was as well occasions that enemy were hitting friendlies with hardly no damage at all. Not even from enemy missiles, and that is so weird.


Could these be checked? Because enemy seemed to have hardly at all effect on our units, even when players clearly saw and took many hits.


There was many occasions of green infantry / tanks being blasted by arty again and again with no damage at all. 
Title: Re: D.O.W. Saturday Mission 10/10/15:DOW North Korea Invasion 2015
Post by: Apocalypse31 on October 11, 2015, 12:54:11 AM
Good mission. Overwhelming success for BLUEFOR

AAR Notes:
(-) Roadmarch could've been better organized and planned. We were bunched up/disorganized at many points. If the enemy had a faster pace we may have been put in a bad situation. For any future roadmarch units at every echelon need to develop internal plans for an order of march and timing/sequencing so as not to de-synch the overall unit

(-)Task Organization Changes. I task organized the Challenger Platoon to move to the furthest northern battle position. It's important to understand the capabilities/limitations of equipment - in this case our slowest vehicle, the Challenger, should've been organized to stay in the southern BP.

(+)Employment of Close Combat Aviation. Our CCA team had a total of 63 armored kills. Cupcake managed the flight of AH-64Ds very well, ensuring the birds stayed outside of enemy missile range, while simultaneously providing what resulted in the decisive point of the battle. The only issue we faced was the FARP suffering repeated indirect fire attacks - resulting in one destroyed AH-64. I think we got comfortable with the location. We should've moved the FARP further north to support the northern battle position.

(+) Battle Position Selection. Players/Units identified effective battle positions that had overwatch on all enemy axis of advance. Player-manned units were effective in stopped the OPFOR from coming within 1.5km of either river crossing site. Straight shooting rules the day.
Title: Re: D.O.W. Saturday Mission 10/10/15:DOW North Korea Invasion 2015
Post by: Lumituisku on October 11, 2015, 01:07:07 AM
Great AAR summary Apocalypse!

From my part I have to say that next time.... I will indeed prepare some emergency "energy sufficent"  before mission and make sure im... operational not to cause trouble as in start of this mission. Thank you all for being so patient with zombie Lumi.

As for AAR on my part. In future I will make more questions of road march and plan to keep myself on track of whats going on, and that things go right. And I make sure to keep track that my units wont cause trouble.

As side notice.. I will make sure that on road march of this large force I will make units to stay on close spacing for less marching trouble.

As for positions and plan. I felt that my role was to be as reserve, and to ensure that enemy force could not get past B3 position, in case if front units would be overrun.

- - -

As for mission feedback.  Good mission, it was very tense and exiting by feeling. Thank god we were lucky and had those Apaches. Or it would been lot more stressful, even in amounts to cause horrible nightmare for tonight.   

Title: Re: D.O.W. Saturday Mission 10/10/15:DOW North Korea Invasion 2015
Post by: Cougar11 on October 11, 2015, 09:50:41 PM

I think there was really some trouble with enemy artillery having no effect to our units.

I clearly saw many many times either my units or other friendlies being under artillery.. and nothing. Not even my infantry while they were middle of HE barrage.  That is so weird, especially when there was so much of artillery.  And most of damage came from enemy tanks?  Or artillery that was right at the start of the mission.

There was as well occasions that enemy were hitting friendlies with hardly no damage at all. Not even from enemy missiles, and that is so weird.


Could these be checked? Because enemy seemed to have hardly at all effect on our units, even when players clearly saw and took many hits.


There was many occasions of green infantry / tanks being blasted by arty again and again with no damage at all.

I agree that I have seen this as well. I noticed that Durham and Apocalypse observed arty on our units, where I did not see any at all, and none of my tanks were hurt, but should have been as I stayed in position not moving. Also I have been hit with many missiles repeatedly and with no damage. I think there is a major bug going on.  ???
Title: Re: D.O.W. Saturday Mission 10/10/15:DOW North Korea Invasion 2015
Post by: Colebrook on October 12, 2015, 05:59:26 PM
Seems it was a great mission, can someone upload the AAR?
Title: Re: D.O.W. Saturday Mission 10/10/15:DOW North Korea Invasion 2015
Post by: Cupcake on October 12, 2015, 06:07:24 PM
I believe I uploaded it to the file browser on the teamspeak server...
Title: Re: D.O.W. Saturday Mission 10/10/15:DOW North Korea Invasion 2015
Post by: Colebrook on October 13, 2015, 02:11:48 AM
Thx Cupcake