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Title: DOW 4-7 CAV Greece Incursion Campaign by Cougar11
Post by: Cougar11 on February 26, 2015, 11:24:06 PM
A week ago on Saturday we played the first phase in the campaign. I plan on continuing the campaign that will go 3-8 missions, maybe more depending.
These could be played once or twice a month depending on schedule and mission creation time based on the outcome of the previous mission/missions.

Things I am looking at doing as of now, and have had some good input from a few members so far.
1. Keeping the current makeup or 2 M2A3 platoons, 2 M1A2 platoons, and support units. (as per 1997 configuration of the unit at that time).
2. Possibly allowing re-reinforcements through the campaign, while keeping damaged and or destroyed vehicles/equipment as accurate as possible from one to the next.
2. Having multiple sides with civilians, enemy and host nation collaborator units (ie insurgent or loyalist type units).
3. Having multinational units augmented  into the mission uncontrolled and controlled by mission commander, that would increase, or change the makeup of the units in the mission.
4. Having low level satellite country equipment (ie. T55, BMP1, etc.), and escalating up to T90, BMP3, and others.
5. Allowing for defense, fallback, attack, recon, screening, breaching, and others possibly.
6. Keeping the unit numbers to a level that if there are only 8 people playing the most you would control is one platoon each of combat units (not including support units), allowing for multi-crew units, full platoons, and big enough for up to 20 people to have one tank or unit.

Any ideas people might want to see, or just thoughts on it are welcome.
Title: Campaign ribbons
Post by: RedWardancer on February 27, 2015, 02:32:53 AM
Even though it may not count in SB, it would still be cool as heck either here or there...or both.

Video uploads is a great selling point.  Seeing your deeds and mistakes on YouTube is awesome.  DOW should really step this up. 

Not sure about the upgrade in equipment, either a military has them or they don't.  But that depends entirely on who we are going up against and to what degree:  Is this a full out invasion for all the marbles or just a proxy war that may burn out if the enemy goals cannot be achieved easily?

I'm all for this, never been in a campaign before
Title: Re: Campaign ribbons
Post by: Asid on February 27, 2015, 04:07:01 PM
Great stuff Cougar... Let the discussions begin :)

Even though it may not count in SB, it would still be cool as heck either here or there...or both.

Video uploads is a great selling point.  Seeing your deeds and mistakes on YouTube is awesome.  DOW should really step this up. 


Re: Campaign ribbons
They are in the works for 2 campaigns here :)

Re: YouTube
I am on it but there are only so many hours in a day.... :o

Regards
Title: Re: DOW 4-7 CAV Greece Incursion Campaign by Cougar11
Post by: Colebrook on February 28, 2015, 02:12:45 AM
Sounds good. Lets see if i can get more good ideas for the other campaign  :D
Title: Re: DOW 4-7 CAV Greece Incursion Campaign by Cougar11
Post by: Cougar11 on March 06, 2015, 05:37:14 AM
Mission is posted here.

http://dogsofwarvu.com/forum/index.php?topic=355.0 (http://dogsofwarvu.com/forum/index.php?topic=355.0)
Title: Re: DOW 4-7 CAV Greece Incursion Campaign by Cougar11
Post by: Cougar11 on March 09, 2015, 06:48:01 AM
The third installment is in the making. Have most of the units, map, and an idea of what it will all be about.

Thank you all for your input. Red thank you for reminding me there are more than one troop in a squadron. Thank you Assassin for you Fallujah mission.  ;D

Quick run down is B Troop 4-7 CAV DOW augmented by the FIN's, and additional assets from HQ. Units consist of M1A2SEP, M3A2, M2A2, CV-90/30, and STRV 122.
Red I will remember to give your guys Storms, but you may regret it in the end.  8)

Summary will change but this is close. Enemy during the attack on St. Joseph moved in infantry, mech inf, and and maybe even some armor to the south.

B Troop 4-7 CAV will have to clear the town and university, secure three bridges, an airport, and a railway station, setup blocking positions, and screen lines.
Tanks will only be used when Armor is present, as a supporting role, and or if the commander decides to use them.

I will put together a proper summary in the days to come, briefing, and more info on it. I really have to test this one multiplayer on a server, and with some people with slower connections/slower computers before this can be set in stone. I hope to have enough for a test done Monday or Tuesday so that if major changes need to be made I can get them done in time. I have another idea, but it is not made yet.

Here is a map clip teaser.
(http://i1164.photobucket.com/albums/q578/ssg_backlund/SS_01_31_12_zpsa7rid3it.jpg)

Enjoy  :) and I look forward to testing, and running the mission on Saturday!!! ;D
Title: Order of battle
Post by: RedWardancer on March 11, 2015, 12:56:57 PM
What is our official lineup of playable units? 
Title: Re: Order of battle
Post by: Asid on March 11, 2015, 03:01:31 PM
What is our official lineup of playable units?

Look here: http://dogsofwarvu.com/forum/index.php?topic=361.0
Title: Re: DOW 4-7 CAV Greece Incursion Campaign by Cougar11
Post by: Cougar11 on March 18, 2015, 05:33:15 AM
The future of the campaign. Looks like it may take awhile longer to go through it, but with the more time I have to make them, means more complex missions. 

So far I am looking at some scouting and counter recon, breaching, screening with assaults, counter attacks, withdraw under pressure, and more. I might even get into some logistical parts to the missions.

Always with more time, gives more options, and more detailed blue force, and enemy tactics/missions. The sky is the limits or should I say my time, patience, and sanity are. LOL  :P
Title: Re: DOW 4-7 CAV Greece Incursion Campaign by Cougar11
Post by: Cougar11 on April 02, 2015, 06:15:12 AM
Well here is an update for the campaign. Still looking like it will still be a few weeks before we get back to it around or on April 18th. With that said I have started on the mission, and have an idea of where it is going, and what will happen. I will be making tweaks, changes, and updates over the next two weeks to this, but here is the intro to the mission so far from higher command. Enjoy, or dread it is up to you.  8)

From HVOC 6: Listen up!! Intel was just received that the Russian and their allied forces are making a large push in our area to retake the area. They most likely believe we are weakened in this area over the last three engagements. That would be true of just our Squadron. NATO forces are in route. NATO forces have given us two platoons of infantry mounted in trucks, and a newly formed Company of tanks and IFVs. They will arrive shortly, but will be short on fuel and ammo as they did not have time to pick up supplies. The Russian forces are pushing with two battalions from their reserve combat team. We believe they are pushing a recon element of BRDMs ahead of the main forces. You should expect to see a strong counter recon force consisting of IFV, AT, and Tanks. After that the advanced guard, and main body of the attack. It is unknown at this time if they are going for the town of Thessaloniki, St. Joseph, or both. 4-7 CAV DOW Combined Arms Battalion minus will recon in force to the Northeast to destroy enemy recon and counter recon forces denying them freedom of movement, and advanced intelligence on our forces. Recon forces if possible should retreat southwest, or designate ambush positions that are covered by armor units. Hold the area and we should be able to start pressing the attack instead of defending. Commander good luck, and give them hell troops!!!!!
Title: Re: DOW 4-7 CAV Greece Incursion Campaign by Cougar11
Post by: Asid on April 02, 2015, 04:05:06 PM
This is great.

It is always welcomed, by me anyway, when there is a back story and proper brief. This adds greatly to the immersion.

Great job Cougar
Title: Recon by force?
Post by: RedWardancer on April 03, 2015, 06:54:55 PM
Heheh.  This should be a barrel of laughs.  Especially if I get a chance to set up some ambushes, depending on the battle map.  Troops in trucks?  Must be the airborne (truck-borne?).  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!  And think of how well we defended against that battalion in Phase Two.  Well, we got hurt, but got the job done.  So, are we now C Troop?  Or a whole different type of company unit in the DOW Squadron?

It doesn't have to be that detailed right? 

Now if we can get Asid back...
Title: Re: Recon by force?
Post by: Asid on April 03, 2015, 07:08:12 PM

Now if we can get Asid back...

You rang?.....

 :-*
Title: Re: You rang?
Post by: RedWardancer on April 03, 2015, 11:05:17 PM
YES!  We can always use your veteran expertise in the missions.  Particularly with newbies.

Have you worked on campaign ribbons yet?  Or should we wait if we survive?

Someone was supposed to post videos.  Not sure where to find them here. 

Finally, the mission downloads are empty. 

So, does this all mean you need some help?  I'm not much of a computer guru though.  Figured I have time for now
Title: Re: DOW 4-7 CAV Greece Incursion Campaign by Cougar11
Post by: Asid on April 03, 2015, 11:39:23 PM
YES!  We can always use your veteran expertise in the missions.  Particularly with newbies.

Veteran??? lolol . I am the destroyer of Tanks....my own :D


Have you worked on campaign ribbons yet?  Or should we wait if we survive?

Working on it :)


Someone was supposed to post videos.  Not sure where to find them here. 

Working on that as well :D


Finally, the mission downloads are empty. 

Again ...Working on it. :D

So, does this all mean you need some help?  I'm not much of a computer guru though.  Figured I have time for now

All and any help is appreciated :)

Regards
Title: Re: Recon by force?
Post by: Cougar11 on April 04, 2015, 10:12:32 AM
Heheh.  This should be a barrel of laughs.  Especially if I get a chance to set up some ambushes, depending on the battle map.  Troops in trucks?  Must be the airborne (truck-borne?).  HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!  And think of how well we defended against that battalion in Phase Two.  Well, we got hurt, but got the job done.  So, are we now C Troop?  Or a whole different type of company unit in the DOW Squadron?

It doesn't have to be that detailed right? 

Now if we can get Asid back...

Red. If you want to look at the map you can look at the previous maps and make a line from the rail station one to two K east of that as your East map border, your West border will be one to 2 K West of St. Joseph, South border will be the river of Thessaloniki with the rail station just inside the southern part of the map, and will extend North about 5K from St. Joseph. Map I think is about 12 by 12 or so. There is a area of 8 sq Km to the north east that the scouts will recon and conduct counter recon. They most likely will then withdraw under pressure from the main attack if possible, or whatever the commander has decided to do for defense.

I have given all dismount/mech infantry squads the STORMS 1 ready 2 carried if they survive long enough, and the truck units have a infantry squad and a TOW squad.

Yes we are C troop, but since NATO has given additional units we are more now like a BCT or brigade combat team, or battalion combat team minus meaning not full up numbers since we will be less one company, but I could have called us a task force as well, and maybe is more accurate in this case.

How well we defended??? We almost lost and the units were T62-up to and including a few T90s. This time you will be going against T72M1, M4, T80, T90, BMP3, and some BRDMs. This will not be a pushover, especially if the scouts get cut up, and cannot do their job of counter recon!!!!

Its going to be interesting for sure. If we loose I will have to go back to the drawing board as to where things are going to go, as I have not even thought of a mission if that were to happen.  ??? 8)
Title: Re: DOW 4-7 CAV Greece Incursion Campaign by Cougar11
Post by: Cougar11 on April 07, 2015, 11:32:09 PM
On phase IV is 80% done, and ready for online testing. Would be nice to get 4 people plus myself to test it, but 2 and myself will work too. This mission really come down to how well the mechanized infantry/scout units do!!!! If they fail in their jobs, then the rest of the unit will suffer. Scouts must give a picture of avenues of attack for the commander, so that he can position forces, and especially relief forces in the correct places, and the proper use of artillery. Hopefully this can get done by this weekend, and we will have all next week to develop the plan, and possibly make a manning roster for the game.

Here is a possible list of positions.

CO Charlie
XO Charlie
1C (1-1C & 4-1C) M3A2 -
2C M1A2SEP                   -
3C (3-1C & 4-1C) M3A2 -
4C M1A2SEP                   -
1 & 2B Troops rifle squads with STORMS and TOW missile teams -
1A LEO2A5A2DK not at start  -
2A LEO2A5A2DK not at start  -
3A LEO2A5A2DK not at start  -
4A LEO2A5A2DK not at start  -
5A CV90-35DK    not at start  -
Title: Playtesting Phase IV
Post by: RedWardancer on April 09, 2015, 04:02:12 PM
I'm in.  Other than a phone interview this Thursday afternoon and planning for TGIF, I have nothing better to do than study for the FSOT.  Something about this game, it's almost as addictive as Skyrim... :D
Title: Re: DOW 4-7 CAV Greece Incursion Campaign by Cougar11
Post by: Cougar11 on April 14, 2015, 09:24:00 AM
I will be testing this weekends mission this week to put the final touches on it. Then I will be starting the next phase of the campaign mission design. Right now it looks like after this weekend, there will be between 1 and 3 more phases depending on how the maps and design work out. Our part of the battle may be drawing to a close in the near future 2-4 weeks.  :'(
Title: Re: DOW 4-7 CAV Greece Incursion Campaign by Cougar11
Post by: Cougar11 on April 24, 2015, 12:52:33 AM
Look like the campaign is coming to an end. I have one more possibility to end the campaign. It would require max participation from the group and time.

Looking at creating a mission that deals with timelines, deadlines, rescue, route clearance, attack, city clearing, air units, infantry, and good old tank/IFV combat.

Right now if we can get more than 12 people for a Saturday the map would be 22 Km x 14 Km.
Would require 3 to 4 companies of vehicles and aircraft.
I am guessing the time would be between 2-4 hours. (would know more after testing drive/combat times from start to finish). Maybe a pause halfway if that is possible, but this would not be a good mission to do a save in progress or to break up into two separate missions.
Most likely we would do a manning roster or signup sheet allowing for those that could not do the entire mission, but would really like/need all to participate the entire mission length.

If we can make this happen, it would be planned 2-5 weeks out.

Let me know if this is something you would like to do, and if it is something you could do. Doing this will depend on the response from the community. If it does not look like it can fly, then the campaign will be over this Saturday.

Title: Re: DOW 4-7 CAV Greece Incursion Campaign by Cougar11
Post by: Asid on April 24, 2015, 03:49:56 PM
Looking at creating a mission that deals with timelines, deadlines, rescue, route clearance, attack, city clearing, air units, infantry, and good old tank/IFV combat.

Sounds great. The "features"   ;)  of SB would require extra thought and work when it comes to urban environments as well as the use of infantry.
Title: Re: DOW 4-7 CAV Greece Incursion Campaign by Cougar11
Post by: Lumituisku on April 24, 2015, 04:24:48 PM
Well, Im in, even when I don't like that much of big missions but always ready to help fellow dogs at war.
Title: Re: DOW 4-7 CAV Greece Incursion Campaign by Cougar11
Post by: Colebrook on April 25, 2015, 11:50:54 PM
Im in ,of course.
Title: Re: DOW 4-7 CAV Greece Incursion Campaign by Cougar11
Post by: Renders on April 26, 2015, 04:52:16 AM
count on me!
Title: Re: DOW 4-7 CAV Greece Incursion Campaign by Cougar11
Post by: Beef on April 26, 2015, 07:31:40 PM
Sounds awesome Cougar.
Title: Phase VI rough draft briefing
Post by: Cougar11 on May 08, 2015, 12:55:50 PM
Intel Brief from HAVOC 6: Russian forces have been forced out of the area. NATO forces sent a recon force to the city in an attempt to gauge enemy operations in the city and surrounding area. The unit has not been heard from after a short few radio calls for quick reaction forces, CAS, and medical support. Flights over have not been able to reach the area due to radar anti-air threats.
It is believed that Russian forces are attempting to seize the area as a Russian interest due to the pro Russian population, which claims they have been oppressed by Greek forces. The size of Russian forces moving into the area are of battalion size, with anti-air, air mobile infantry with ground attack capabilities, mechanized infantry, recon, and armor. Pro Russian forces are unconventional, with limited armored fighting vehicles of cold war era. It is possible they will use terrorist tactics as well. It is believed Russian or pro Russian forces hold the city of Loki, and the surrounding schools, factories, and smaller towns.
Pro Greek units in the area with limited armored, mechanized, recon, infantry, and anti-air vehicles are prepared to move into the area. They will be leading the initial push into the area, and will be moving units to objective towns, factories, schools, the city of Loki, and the surrounding areas. They will attempt to secure all objectives, and provide advanced recon for NATO forces that will follow.
TF Hawk consist of four companies of armor, recon, mechanized infantry, air mobile infantry/missile teams, air attack aircraft, support, and artillery. TF Hawk is to support Pro Greek forces in their attempt to secure objectives, eliminate anti-Greek forces, and destroy or expel all Russian forces from the area. NATO forces are limited in Artillery options in populated areas due to neutral civilian population in the area, industry, and to limit destruction for recovery after hostilities. All units will have to identify their targets as to not kill allied forces, and civilian population. We do not need Pro Greek becoming Pro Russian. As well as we do not need any unnecessary civilian deaths. TF commander will need to use the assets at hand to deal with the support of Pro Greek forces, and to accomplish NATO objectives.


Let me know what you think. Like I said before this would be a long mission. Still have not tested anything yet, and it is so large that I am not sure I will be able to actually run through an entire mission with it, but will be testing the AI forces only.

This mission will require enough people to handle arty, helicopters attack and infantry, and 4 companies of vehicles.

Will need a manning roster for this one for sure. It would be great to get 15 or more people. Definitely going to test Steel Beasts and its features  :P on this one within our group.

So far mission design time 10 hours. Amount done is 4 factions, place all units, routing and tactics for 2 of the 3 AI forces, graphics, trigger zones, concept, options, and rough draft of a briefing. Is see another 10 hours in the future with testing and refining after finishing the Russian forces routing and tactics.
Title: Re: DOW 4-7 CAV Greece Incursion Campaign by Cougar11
Post by: Lumituisku on May 08, 2015, 01:17:20 PM
Count me in. Ill gladly take charge of platoon of mechanized infantry or artillery / FO unit.