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Title: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: SystemInShock on February 20, 2019, 07:32:33 PM
Greetings,

Anyone have any input for the Gladiator MK II joystick?  I'm looking for a joystick to play IL-2 Sturmovik.  I like the looks of this joystick and the fact that it has a throttle and rudder controls.  I'm not engaged seriously enough into flight games/sims to want a HOTAS solution with rudder pedals.  I want something that has some functionality of that sort, but doesn't have to be perfect.  I'm using an F16 Combatstick right now and it's old and the sensors are wonky and time to replace.

Thank you for any input!

Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Reds on February 20, 2019, 08:07:39 PM
I've heard good things about it and it looks pretty sweet tbh I'm tempted myself , my CH needs replacing also and I've been looking at the Gladiator , but I ideally need a Hotas.

 If you do buy one let us know your thoughts on it .
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Asid on February 20, 2019, 10:58:39 PM
I have heard good things about the company VKB. They make quality controllers. Same goes for Virpil.
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Asid on February 20, 2019, 11:00:19 PM
I've heard good things about it and it looks pretty sweet tbh I'm tempted myself , my CH needs replacing also and I've been looking at the Gladiator , but I ideally need a Hotas.

 If you do buy one let us know your thoughts on it .

You might want to be able to split the throttle.....Thinking about the military jets which have twin engines....Just a thought  :thumbsup
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Reds on February 20, 2019, 11:29:12 PM
There is the Warthog , but I would have to remortgage to get that .  :laughing4

Look at this! :P

https://flightsimcontrols.com/product/gunfighter-mk-ii/
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Asid on February 20, 2019, 11:37:06 PM
There is the Warthog , but I would have to remortgage to get that .  :laughing4


Apparently Virpil are superior  :winner
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Reds on February 21, 2019, 12:01:00 AM
Their controllers look amazing  :winner
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: SystemInShock on February 23, 2019, 05:50:01 PM
There is the Warthog , but I would have to remortgage to get that .  :laughing4

Look at this! :P

https://flightsimcontrols.com/product/gunfighter-mk-ii/

I saw that one.  It is a thing of beauty, but like all artwork, very expensive.  I have too many expensive hobbies, so this one has to suffer a bit. 

https://store.x-plane.org/Gladiator-MK-II_p_595.html

I think that is a good compromise for good stick and functionality.
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: SystemInShock on February 23, 2019, 05:52:34 PM
I've heard good things about it and it looks pretty sweet tbh I'm tempted myself , my CH needs replacing also and I've been looking at the Gladiator , but I ideally need a Hotas.

 If you do buy one let us know your thoughts on it .

You might want to be able to split the throttle.....Thinking about the military jets which have twin engines....Just a thought  :thumbsup

That is actually a good thought, but I've never done it before on any flight simulator.  I don't fly at the same level as most of the people on this forum.  I do it for fun and some stress relief.  Learning all the buttons on a new aircraft is just not fun for me. 
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Hammer on February 27, 2019, 03:21:25 AM
I have the Gladiator MKII, it is an excellent stick.  If you are not so deep into flight sims you feel the need for the Warthog or one of higher end VKB Sim products, it is well worth getting.  I purchased it because it pained me to see my Warthog sit unused for months on end, so I decided to sell it off and get the Gladiator.  I sold the Warthog for enough to buy it as well as a TWCS throttle and have some cash left over.  Since I purchased it I have set it up and flown Falcon BMS and am not wanting for any more buttons, etc. (personally I do not think I will have a need for split throttle, but if I do I will likely be getting a high end throttle anyway).  I primarily fly IL2 series now but will get back into modern stuff again sooner or later (likely later!).

I highly recommend this stick.  It does not require you to start working out with weights to use it, is stable on the desk, bonus on the twist for rudder (I do have pedals though) and has a high quality feel.

EDIT: I recommend getting it from the VKB Sim North America store if you are in North America, unless there is a good discount elsewhere.  Good guy, hobbyist just like us, picked up the NA rights after someone else got out, just trying to support his (gaming) hobby.
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Reds on February 27, 2019, 10:50:13 PM
Just bit the bullet and bought one , my CH , despite changing all the pots is really playing up . Got it for 100 quid inc delivery which is a bargain really for the quality of it .

I'll post feedback here once I get it working and have some experience with it .
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Asid on February 27, 2019, 10:58:09 PM
Just bit the bullet and bought one , my CH , despite changing all the pots is really playing up . Got it for 100 quid inc delivery which is a bargain really for the quality of it .

I'll post feedback here once I get it working and have some experience with it .

Look forward to your thoughts
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Hammer on February 27, 2019, 11:23:54 PM
I will also be interested in another's feedback to see if it is as nice as I believe it is.
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: SystemInShock on February 28, 2019, 04:24:39 AM
I have the Gladiator MKII, it is an excellent stick.  If you are not so deep into flight sims you feel the need for the Warthog or one of higher end VKB Sim products, it is well worth getting.  I purchased it because it pained me to see my Warthog sit unused for months on end, so I decided to sell it off and get the Gladiator.  I sold the Warthog for enough to buy it as well as a TWCS throttle and have some cash left over.  Since I purchased it I have set it up and flown Falcon BMS and am not wanting for any more buttons, etc. (personally I do not think I will have a need for split throttle, but if I do I will likely be getting a high end throttle anyway).  I primarily fly IL2 series now but will get back into modern stuff again sooner or later (likely later!).

I highly recommend this stick.  It does not require you to start working out with weights to use it, is stable on the desk, bonus on the twist for rudder (I do have pedals though) and has a high quality feel.

EDIT: I recommend getting it from the VKB Sim North America store if you are in North America, unless there is a good discount elsewhere.  Good guy, hobbyist just like us, picked up the NA rights after someone else got out, just trying to support his (gaming) hobby.

I looked at that store, and they are charging $20.00 for shipping. The link I posted above is free shipping.  Same price on the stick itself.

Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Asid on February 28, 2019, 09:27:36 AM

I looked at that store, and they are charging $20.00 for shipping. The link I posted above is free shipping.  Same price on the stick itself.

Reds is in the UK. The stick will incur a tax charge which would most likely exceed $20  :thumbdown
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Hammer on February 28, 2019, 09:33:07 PM
You will also get support from the VKB Sim NA business if you should ever need it.  Probably not necessary, but one never knows.  X Plane guys buy their VKB Sim products direct from China.  I know that for some a buck is a buck and saving cash means a lot.
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Reds on February 28, 2019, 11:53:34 PM
I bought mine VKB EU , it included tax , delivery , plus you get full support from VKB rather than 3rd party which is worth the extra dollars I reckon .
       I did a bit of reading up on it , it has some powerful software and program ability's , so with that in mind , personally I would rather avoid 3rd party sellers if possible . But , as Hammer said a good deal is a good deal .
       Either way I think you will be happy with it SystemInShock , its an awesome looking stick ! Should get mine tomorrow :yahoo
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: SystemInShock on March 04, 2019, 01:52:50 PM
You will also get support from the VKB Sim NA business if you should ever need it.  Probably not necessary, but one never knows.  X Plane guys buy their VKB Sim products direct from China.  I know that for some a buck is a buck and saving cash means a lot.

Your counterpoint has merit, was considered, and accepted.  I just ordered it from VKB North America.  Can't wait!
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Hammer on March 04, 2019, 07:02:36 PM
SiS, nice!  I am fairly certain you will not be disappointed with it.

Reds,
How do you like it?
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Reds on March 04, 2019, 07:20:14 PM
 Still waiting for delivery . It's in UK though should have it hopefully tomorrow :pray
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Hammer on March 04, 2019, 07:29:27 PM
got it, a bit slower than expected, huh?
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Reds on March 04, 2019, 07:56:51 PM
Yeah thought I would get it Saturday just gone.
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Asid on March 05, 2019, 01:10:16 PM
Yeah thought I would get it Saturday just gone.

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/8f652b4f9fc2143a42229a661d4d0e8a/tenor.gif?itemid=10836639)
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Hammer on March 05, 2019, 04:39:41 PM
kinda cheeky there Asid.   :laughing4  ???

you know how it is when you are waiting for a new toy to arrive.   ;)
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Reds on March 05, 2019, 06:35:14 PM
 :laughing4

Guess what ?

Still waiting :cry2
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Hammer on March 05, 2019, 06:53:08 PM
urg, that sucks. 
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Reds on March 05, 2019, 07:53:03 PM
Definately getting it tomorrow its going to a pickup point .  ;D
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: SystemInShock on March 05, 2019, 08:23:23 PM
Definately getting it tomorrow its going to a pickup point .  ;D

Awesome!  Mine hasn't shipped so far.  Probably won't for another day or two.

Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Reds on March 05, 2019, 09:12:57 PM
 I'll let you know what I think tomorrow , might post a piccy .
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Asid on March 06, 2019, 12:12:24 AM
I'll let you know what I think tomorrow , might post a piccy .

 :needpics
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: SystemInShock on March 06, 2019, 02:15:32 PM
I'll let you know what I think tomorrow , might post a piccy .

What was your joystick starting place?  Mine is coming from Taiwan.
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Reds on March 06, 2019, 08:04:13 PM
Mine was Amsterdam , finally got my hands on it . It looks and feels really well built , buttons are nice and solid , the gimbals feel very precise and very quiet compared to my CH .

Not flown with it yet  but already I can tell its a quality peice of kit . It looks amazing too !

Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Reds on March 08, 2019, 12:52:47 AM
Flown with it a bit now , its super precise . Not a fan of using it in mode 2 as it gets confusing so i'm sticking to one mode , got it paired with a throttle anyway so i've got plenty of buttons .

I highly recommend it tbh , its an awesome stick , and feels well built . Thumbs up from me  :thumbsup
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: SystemInShock on March 08, 2019, 05:32:06 PM
Flown with it a bit now , its super precise . Not a fan of using it in mode 2 as it gets confusing so i'm sticking to one mode , got it paired with a throttle anyway so i've got plenty of buttons .

I highly recommend it tbh , its an awesome stick , and feels well built . Thumbs up from me  :thumbsup

Awesome!  That's excellent news.  I can't wait to receive mine.  It finally shipped and it will be here Monday!
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Reds on March 09, 2019, 12:59:24 AM
I just tried it with the DCS Blackshark which is a really good test of accuracy and all I can say is WOW!

This stick is fantastic , really accurate and smooth , for the price its a bargain , Systeminshock your in for a treat .
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Hammer on March 09, 2019, 01:19:48 AM
 ;)
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: SystemInShock on March 10, 2019, 07:48:47 PM
I just tried it with the DCS Blackshark which is a really good test of accuracy and all I can say is WOW!

This stick is fantastic , really accurate and smooth , for the price its a bargain , Systeminshock your in for a treat .

Just tracked the shipment and I don't know that it will make it by tomorrow. Hopefully Tuesday if it doesn't.

I'm glad it's an awesome stick.  It will be nice to not use that clunky CH stick.
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: SystemInShock on March 13, 2019, 12:04:09 PM
It has arrived!  Wow, this is so much better than that old CH stick.  I think I agree that I'll stick with one mode.  Maybe with some practice I can get used to it, but first I'll need to get used to all the buttons in these locations.  Hmm, now how to mount this thing.
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Asid on March 13, 2019, 01:28:27 PM
It has arrived!  Wow, this is so much better than that old CH stick.  I think I agree that I'll stick with one mode.  Maybe with some practice I can get used to it, but first I'll need to get used to all the buttons in these locations.  Hmm, now how to mount this thing.

 :thumbsup
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Hammer on March 13, 2019, 05:12:28 PM
Nice, I suspected you all would like it.  Now if they would release a throttle that does not cost an arm and a leg.
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: SystemInShock on March 13, 2019, 09:09:48 PM
Nice, I suspected you all would like it.  Now if they would release a throttle that does not cost an arm and a leg.

Ugh.  Not more toys I can't afford.  I don't even want to go look at what it costs.  Anything that's not so expensive that works with it?

Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Hammer on March 13, 2019, 10:13:45 PM
I am using a Thrustmaster TWCS:

http://www.thrustmaster.com/en_US/products/twcs-throttle

It works quite well with it, but it is not high end.  I have taken it apart a couple times and lubricated the metal slides with silicon (don't use wd40 or lubricating oils, they will eventually destroy the plastic).  That has made it better.  I got it used on eBay relatively cheap.
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Reds on March 14, 2019, 10:06:11 PM
Grats on the new Joystick System, hope you have fun with it .

Heard lots of good stuff about the TWCS throttle , it's supposed to be really good !

Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Hammer on May 09, 2019, 04:19:05 AM
I know this late to reply, but in looking I found a lot of people complain about the stiction in the TWCS.  I did more research and found a good lube for it, although I did not use exactly what was recommended.  It completely resolved the stiction.

Since the larger tubes cost a bit much just to try out, I found a 2cc 'sample' bottle of the medium viscosity lube instead of the heavy viscosity that was recommended by the majority of people using this.  I also did not want a lot of damping.  This certainly did the trick!

NyoGel 760G™ Damping Grease (2cc tube)      $3.00
Item #A3-NYE-760G-2cc

It was also $4 for shipping, got to me in a few days.  It was purchased from Overready.com.

Here is one of the threads I read that recommend the Nyogel 767a, but like I said I did not want a thicker viscosity or a higher level of damping.

https://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26498 (https://theairtacticalassaultgroup.com/forum/showthread.php?t=26498)
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Asid on May 09, 2019, 11:32:11 AM
I know this late to reply, but in looking I found a lot of people complain about the stiction in the TWCS.  I did more research and found a good lube for it, although I did not use exactly what was recommended.  It completely resolved the stiction.


I have come across stiction on various occasions. Mostly in my radio control usage. I have employed various methods from removing small amounts of material, replacing bushes with bearings, using various grease and using Teflon sheet material. It is VERY important to use the correct grease/lubricants on plastic. Otherwise you could damage the components!
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Hammer on May 09, 2019, 06:16:51 PM
"It is VERY important to use the correct grease/lubricants on plastic. Otherwise you could damage the components!"

absolutely.  one cannot use just anything laying around.

Asid you might want to have a look at this stuff, they make a light, medium and heavy viscosity.
Title: Re: VKB Gladiator MK II Joystick
Post by: Hammer on May 10, 2020, 01:00:13 AM
Hey all!  It has been a good long while since I ventured here.  Since I recommended the Gladiator MkII, I have started flying DCS almost exclusively and guess what?  I needed more buttons!  I knew VKB Sim had an upgrade kit coming, but had to wait several weeks for it to be available after I determined I needed it (maybe months).  I purchased and installed it, wow is this thing cool.  I have been using it for several months now and have absolutely zero problems to note.  With the upgrade it is now called the Space Gladiator.  Yes, pics included.  NO, the applesauce is not mine but I will claim the coffee cup!