Dogs Of War Vu
Sim/Strategy/War => Games Discussion => Topic started by: Yassy on January 26, 2015, 04:50:15 PM
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I keep on hearing lots of good things about this game. Would it be something that you can play online in digital form somehow?
I know its a tabletop game, but perhaps something like VASSAL has support for it?
And if so, would it be suitable for DoW?
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Hi Yassy
There are some members here that would be interested, time permitting, and it is possible with Vassal.
Here is a good Podcast talking about ASL: http://threemovesahead.libsyn.com/episode-292-advanced-squad-leader
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There is a VASSL for ASL (VASL) that can be found here: http://vasl.info/download.htm
You need the rules from MMP (Multi Man Publishing) (http://www.multimanpublishing.com/Products/tabid/58/CategoryID/5/Default.aspx) which are available with or without an official binder for $80 or $66 respectively. The current version of the rules is the 2nd Edition. I have the 1st edition and have been brooding over whether to buy the 2nd edition.
There are three ASL Starter Kits (ASLSK) with each kit adding "new dimensions" to the rules (first infantry, then support weapons, then armor rules). It's the rules in baby steps...also available from MMP. There is a good three-part YouTube video (http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLQK4lSYgVde_jNL0T6PFdlEsE_Z3IqszK) that shows off the 1st starter kit.
I for one would be very interested.
Beef
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I would be interested to play, BUT (and this is a big but) a) I've never played any ASL, just heard about it a lot, b) time is always a concern.
Would there be a way to play by email or at least save your ongoing games? Does VASSAL feature AI to practise against?
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Yes, you can PBEM. Get the starter kit #1 and see how you like it, or not. The kits have a great re-sale value as they sometimes are out of print.
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Sounds like a plan, but before I do: how long would a game take PBEM?
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Always wanted to play ASL but never had any friends locally that played tabletop wargames.
Definitely interested though sounds way expensive for what it is. Cheaper to get Tiller's Campaign Series from Matrix. Great classic wargame with PBEM. :)
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Cheaper to get Tiller's Campaign Series from Matrix.
Tiller... You played one... You played em all.....You've seen one...You'll never see again as the garish colours blind you :o
Advanced Tactics Gold is worth a look http://www.matrixgames.com/products/405/details/Advanced.Tactics:.Gold
Unit Scale: Division, Battalion, Company, Regiment, Brigade, Army
Players: 1-14
AI: Yes
PBEM: Yes
or maybe
TOAWIII http://www.matrixgames.com/products/317/details/Norm.Koger%27s.The.Operational.Art.of.War.III
Unit Scale: Company, Corps
Players: 1-2
AI: Yes
PBEM: Yes
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Still good games though.
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Played ASL for years.
It's a lifestyle more than a game.
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Played ASL for years.
It's a lifestyle more than a game.
Tell us more Rondor :)
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Ok, I've been able to take a gander at the ASL rules,
but I digress. This is going to take a long time in PBEM and seems to be much better with players around the table. :)
I am not going to jump in, sorry. ;D
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Well, where does one start. No doubt the most detailed baord wargame of squad level WW2 ever made.
Pro's:
Amazing fidelity
The rulebook is HUGE.
Every possible geography and battle you can ever imagine.
fully fleshed out rules for ANYTHING you could imagine happening.
HUGE online player base thru VASSAL (VASL).
Tremendous tension for a boardgame...truly.
Con's:
The rulebook is HUGE
Expensive to collect (but easy to sell and prices never go down).
One must spend a shit-ton of time to learn the bells and whistles and it really is best suited to a mentor as opposed to read and learn.
Face-to-face apponents are not easy to come by but if you live in a major city you can usually find one or two.
The ultimate ww2 chess game
Played ASL for years.
It's a lifestyle more than a game.
Tell us more Rondor :)
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Rondor: Do you have the 2nd Edition of ASL and if so, do you use VASL and do you mentor at all? I have the 1st Edition of ASL and recently bought ASL Starter Kit 1 with the thought of actually playing the game and going to ConSim World eventually.
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The time commitment is the issue :(
Still....... ;)
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It does remain enticing! I know!
But I really cannot afford it at the moment. :)
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Actually scratch that! I AM going to get the Starter Kit. :D
I mentioned the game to someone I know and he had an unused Starter Kit 1 laying around I could have. So for a modest price I will get the kit in a few days.
At least I can now fiddle around with it for real, see if it actually isn't a fit for me and I can always sell it again on Ebay.
So guys, if any of you ASL-ers are up for some pupil tutoring, I will be game once I get it. :D
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Keep us updated (images are handy :) )
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I will post some pictures once I recieve the kit. :)
Have installed VASL, so I have all the tools ready to begin learning this beast! :D
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Looking forward to it Yassy :)
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(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/09/af8bdb1e251c9137ae5f8fce941c7faf.jpg)
Its here!
And I've also met a couple of guys who want to teach me how to play.
One of them even lives in the same town as I do! :D :smitten:
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Having someone in your area to teach you ASL is priceless. Good going! Hope to hear more about this.
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(http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/15/02/09/af8bdb1e251c9137ae5f8fce941c7faf.jpg)
Its here!
And I've also met a couple of guys who want to teach me how to play.
One of them even lives in the same town as I do! :D :smitten:
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Great news Yassy.
please keep us informed as to your progress...with lots of pictures.
Thanks
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Holy cow, gents. This game has had me glued to my kitchen table! I don't think I've even turned my PC on, save for a schedules session of ASL via VASSAL! :P
As things like this often go; I ended up buying Beyond Valor (the first full ASL module you need, after promoting from the Starter Kits) AND For King and Country (British OOB) AND Rising Sun (PTO - Japs, China and US Marines OOB)... :S
Once these things will be in my hands, expect some extensive pictures.
Also, I stumbled upon 2 guys living just around the corner who are experienced ASL players, so I can play face to face too! Funny how these things can tun out, don't you think?
Anyway, I've had my first baptism by fire on VASL (the VASSAL module to play ASL) by an excellent teacher. Next session is this coming wednesday!
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Great stuff Yassy
We need pictures and lots of more details please
Thanks
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I will try to capture screens wednesday and make more pics of my hardcopy material. :)
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ASL is a turn-based board game?
(http://www.c3iopscenter.com/currentops/wp-content/uploads/2012/09/ASLSanMarinoCeccoliss.jpg?7a42bf)
I remember a long, long time ago, I chanced upon a huge map of Europe that I somehow got from my Dad. I was like 3' by 2' or something. Anyway, I got hold of my dad's plastic draughsman template and with a black pen, I painstakingly drew a hexagon grid on the entire map. That took me several days. The I created my own tokens and my own 'Chance' and 'Utility' cards. And I created a WW2 Eastern Front game...which I played by myself, against myself! Axis invasion of Russia. It included cities like Moscow and Leningrad and the Caucuses. Ah those were the days when your imagination filled in the blanks and any game was fun because what your brain could imagine - was fun indeed.
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Hello All,
I play and enjoy Advanced Squad Leader (ASL), what makes it intimidating for most people is the vast rules sets that apply. I own all of the base and historical modules as well as the three starter sets. I've also played on VASL before and enjoyed it, but the digital game still requires that you own and understand the rule sets. Great game and you can definitely burn through a bunch of time really fast.
Tanks
Andy