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Sim/Strategy/War => Scourge Of War => Multiplayer games & AAR's => Topic started by: Asid on December 13, 2016, 11:01:12 PM

Title: SOW Waterloo Multiplayer 17/12/16 + AAR
Post by: Asid on December 13, 2016, 11:01:12 PM

(http://i.imgur.com/1Es1u0o.jpg)

SOW Waterloo Multiplayer 17/12/16 @ 21:00GMT

Friendly and relaxed session.


(http://i1288.photobucket.com/albums/b498/Asid_1/Strategy%20Sim/Avatars-Sigs/DoW_Test_sm_zps9phluyxi.png)

This is a friendly multiplayer mission. The mission will be decided by the players. Either PvP or Players v AI.

It will employ the following:
•   HITS
•   Courier orders
•   Bare map. Full F.O.W.
•   No voice during game.

Mods required:

1. V1.01 game engine
2. KS Mod
3. Quatre Bras Lairalle and Grand Pierrepont smoke fix + Quatre Bras Materne Pond fix

All Mods required Click here (http://dogsofwarvu.com/forum/index.php/topic,3846.msg16571.html#new)

NOTE:
The game will launch @ 21:00GMT. The lobby will be open @ 20:30GMT for planning etc


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**                      Notes                       **
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SOW Version: Waterloo 1.01
Mission Name:
Created by:
Modified by:
Largest command: Army
Smallest command: Brigade
Mission Duration: 150 minutes approx
Minimum number players: 2
Date: Saturday 17/12/16
Time: 21:00GMT
Time (local) approx: Click here (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?msg=SOW+Waterloo+Multiplayer&iso=20161217T21&p1=1440&ah=2&am=30)
Teamspeak  IP: 104.153.105.2:35200  Please wait in lobby for access to other areas.
Room: Scourge Of War

Player Skill/Ability:
•   Must be proficient Using HITS
•   Have a good understanding of UI

You must apply in advance

Title: Re: SOW Waterloo Multiplayer 17/12/16
Post by: Beef on December 14, 2016, 03:15:13 AM

I hope to join in!

Title: Re: SOW Waterloo Multiplayer 17/12/16
Post by: Asid on December 16, 2016, 07:39:00 PM

I'm in  :)

Title: Re: SOW Waterloo Multiplayer 17/12/16
Post by: Asid on December 16, 2016, 07:40:34 PM

Note

This session is for players who play with us regularly. Send me a pm if you are not sure.

Title: Re: SOW Waterloo Multiplayer 17/12/16
Post by: Asid on December 17, 2016, 12:13:38 AM

To play online multiplayer Scourge of War Waterloo with us you need the following


1. The latest game patch 1.01 (149MB): ftp://ftp.matrixgames.com/pub/ScourgeOfWarWaterloo/ScourgeOfWar-Update-v101.zip

2. All 3 KS mods
KS Napoleon Mod 1.23 (86.99 MB)
KS Sprites Mod 1.03 (797.53 MB)
KS Supplemental Maps 1.15 (420.27 MB)
You must register to download the KS mods  Click here (http://forum.kriegsspiel.org.uk/t1451-set-up-for-sowwl-napoleon-games-for-kriegspiel-style)

3. Quatre Bras Lairalle and Grand Pierrepont smoke fix + Quatre Bras Materne Pond fix (32KB)  Click here (http://dogsofwarvu.com/forum/index.php/topic,3845.0.html)

Title: Re: SOW Waterloo Multiplayer 17/12/16
Post by: Mr. Digby on December 17, 2016, 09:14:39 AM

I can play this evening.

Title: Re: SOW Waterloo Multiplayer 17/12/16
Post by: Praetoria on December 17, 2016, 02:48:49 PM

Probably i'll be

Title: Re: SOW Waterloo Multiplayer 17/12/16
Post by: Mr. Digby on December 17, 2016, 03:37:39 PM

If we get 6 players I have a 3 vs 3 PvP scenario that is quite small and a little... unusual, as it comes from a semi-fictional campaign I am running. If that's too clever I can create a quick scenario for either PvP or co-op vs AI.

Does everyone have the Ligny and QB add-ons, or should i avoid those maps when making scenarios?

Title: Re: SOW Waterloo Multiplayer 17/12/16
Post by: MTG on December 17, 2016, 03:45:13 PM

I'd play, but do not have the QB expansion.

Title: Re: SOW Waterloo Multiplayer 17/12/16
Post by: Stardog765 on December 17, 2016, 03:55:54 PM

Gonna try my best to play. We got some nasty winter weather coming in today and tonight so trying to find time to get out to the store before all that hits.

Title: Re: SOW Waterloo Multiplayer 17/12/16
Post by: Asid on December 17, 2016, 04:30:24 PM

Beef, Stardog and I have all DLC's

We can easily do a game which does not use QB or Ligney

At the moment we have:

•   Beef
•   Asid
•   Mr Digby
•   MTG
•   Praetoria - Probable
•   Stardog - Probable

Title: Re: SOW Waterloo Multiplayer 17/12/16
Post by: Tuna on December 17, 2016, 04:31:31 PM

Don't own any DLCs, not sure I could play this Saturday anyways.. busy day.. just came in from Shoveling.. now gotta head out and get Xmas stuff.

Title: Re: SOW Waterloo Multiplayer 17/12/16
Post by: Zarco on December 17, 2016, 05:25:13 PM

Im in for a game.

Title: Re: SOW Waterloo Multiplayer 17/12/16
Post by: Asid on December 17, 2016, 05:26:01 PM

Players

•   Beef
•   Asid
•   Mr Digby
•   MTG
•   Praetoria - Probable
•   Stardog - Probable
•   Zarco

Title: Re: SOW Waterloo Multiplayer 17/12/16
Post by: Mr. Digby on December 18, 2016, 12:27:10 AM

It was an interesting and quite different game today. I thought it was brave of the three DoW players to volunteer to be on the same side leaving me and MTG on the same side...

The battle went the way it went mainly because of different team experience, so guys, please do not be discouraged by the result.

Part of the problem was the silly artillery LoS bug through woods as well.

I'm happy to offer any thoughts or advice on what went wrong and how to avoid such things for future games.

Title: Re: SOW Waterloo Multiplayer 17/12/16
Post by: Zarco on December 18, 2016, 01:46:55 PM

It was quite an interesting game, though i barely engaged anyone.

Title: Re: SOW Waterloo Multiplayer 17/12/16
Post by: MTG on December 18, 2016, 02:34:51 PM

As Martin said, don't be too discouraged.  He and I have played hundreds of MP games together and had the benefit of all that experience.  Knowing what the SOW troops can and can't do in various situations is an enormous advantage.  That's especially true in situations where the view is restricted due to the terrain.  Had it been more open, I'm sure you'd have made a much better fight of it, as you could see what was going on and more easily coordinate your separate divisions.

If you watch the replay of the battle, I'm sure you'll see why the battle went the way it did.  I've learned through my own painful experiences not to do that.  :'(

Title: Re: SOW Waterloo Multiplayer 17/12/16
Post by: Asid on December 18, 2016, 02:50:05 PM

Hi Martin

We withdrew from the battle and we are fine with that. However what threw us were "anomalies" such as the artillery having L.O.S. through the heavy woods. This totally changed our plans.

I will comment more later as I have no time at the moment.

Regards

Title: Re: SOW Waterloo Multiplayer 17/12/16
Post by: Stardog765 on December 18, 2016, 05:35:01 PM

Thank you all for the game and I appreciate the encouragement.  We are still learning obviously so we have no issue with being on the short end of a fight. Not a problem, especially to two people who have played as much as you both.  What I think was discouraging like Asid said the issues that seem to be game related all the sudden.
The arty bug with them being able to fire as they wish through forests is obviously a problem but for me even more so early on in the battle was losing total control of large groups of my soldiers.
We might be new but we have played quite a few sandbox games together and single player to get used to the game and I have never had that issue once I started using the KS Mod and I love it but the last two weeks I have had very similar problem where large groups of soldiers will not do what I want them to do, TC'd or not and not  under fire or even close to being engaged.  Last week it happened right off the bat when leaving the assembly area. 

So its really just things like that that are a frustration not being on the losing end of a battle. We are all adults and know the learning curve is steep so no issue with that.

Title: Re: SOW Waterloo Multiplayer 17/12/16
Post by: Mr. Digby on December 19, 2016, 01:23:47 PM

Stardog, next time you experience this loss of control can you make a savegame? I'd like to look into this.

You can set the game options to save a game at regular intervals (I have mine set at 5 mins), so that file will do. It would mean pausing an MP game in progress to alt-tab out to your windows explorer and copy the save file somewhere safe but if you let the players know over TS what you are doing all should be okay.

Sometimes custom scenario creation can cause weird stuff so it may be related to my scenario-writing skills or methods. If it is I need to know!

Many thanks.

Title: Re: SOW Waterloo Multiplayer 17/12/16
Post by: Stardog765 on December 19, 2016, 01:42:59 PM

I certainly will do that.
I was helping a friend install the KS mod the other afternoon and he had the same problem on a stock sandbox game trying to get his troops moving towards the objective.

I will see if I can get a save of it next time I play.

Thanks sir

Title: Re: SOW Waterloo Multiplayer 17/12/16
Post by: Asid on December 19, 2016, 06:31:47 PM

The results.

British (blue) 3 players
Asid
Beef
Stardog

Prussian (red) 3 players
Mr Digby
MTG
Zarco

The British found this battle frustrating. We ran into Line of sight anomalies which we neither expected or knew existed. Maybe it was just one of those days? This meant that we were left in surprised and a little disappointed. there seemed to be an issue where the enemy artillery engaged us through trees when they never had L.O.S. Our plan hinged on using the woods as cover. The CIC was myself. I had no real response to this turn of events. I accept responsibility for the defeat.

The Prussians played well and used what they had to their advantage. We shall meet again!!!! We will give no quarter  ;)

2 objectives.
(http://i.imgur.com/lltapwE.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/3rRyNCR.png)

(http://i.imgur.com/ZDnnZcH.png)


Download Replay file Click here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/g1hh1ahuhe0qum4/DOW%20MP%2017%2012%2016.zip?dl=0)

To play the file. Download and extract it to the C:\Users\Username\Documents\SowWL\Saved Games\Replay folder. Only place the ".rep" file in the folder.

Single player > Load Replay > Select file > Press "Load replay"


Download Battle stats  Click here (https://www.dropbox.com/s/8prvzbcaxqrcpi8/Battle%20Calc%2017%2012%2016.zip?dl=0)

To play the file.
Download and extract it anywhere.
Double click: SOW Outcome Calculator.exe
Click " Calculate overall score" at the top of the screen.
Selecting each named person on the left or right will reflect specific results.

Note: In this stats sheet the French are British and Allies are Prussian.