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Offline lonelyman

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How to view kml tracks from Fly Is Fun on Tackview
« on: January 08, 2019, 08:37:35 AM »
Dear friends!
I can't view kml tracks made by Fly is Fun in Tacview!

Could you suggest me the solution? how to contact tack view developer?

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Re: How to view kml tracks from Fly Is Fun on Tackview
« Reply #1 on: January 08, 2019, 12:39:14 PM »
Dear friends!
I can't view kml tracks made by Fly is Fun in Tacview!

Could you suggest me the solution? how to contact tack view developer?

 :Welcome to the forum

Hi Lonelyman

This is the official forum for Tacview. The developer will see this.

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Re: How to view kml tracks from Fly Is Fun on Tackview
« Reply #2 on: January 08, 2019, 06:26:15 PM »
Hi Lonelyman,

The KML format is not particularly appropriate to store telemetry data. Only some of KML files can be used for debriefing in Tacview.

It is possible that Fly is Fun is creating only graphical KML files: which draw things on screen. The problem which these, is that there is no information about the plane position / rotation / time.

Is there any other format supported by Fly is Fun? Maybe GPX or CSV?

Can you share one of these KML file? I will have a look at them to see if we can extract something from them.
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Re: How to view kml tracks from Fly Is Fun on Tackview
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2019, 06:48:34 PM »
Dear Vyrtuoz!
Thank you for trying to help me.
here you are, 2 tracks of my flight.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1BC140nOcob0EHpCpJN4uqf6B9n9mPI-G

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ydqJJzICExzmhVdHApV8Hq7WZd9R22uF


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Re: How to view kml tracks from Fly Is Fun on Tackview
« Reply #4 on: February 25, 2019, 06:05:47 PM »
Thank you for the data!

It looks like that these gpx files are properly supported by Tacview.

As soon as you have loaded your data, you can use the “Edit Selected Object…” menu option to change the object type to something like “Fixed Wing Aircraft” and its name to the appropriate designation for your plane like DA40 or C172 for example.

Now you should see the proper 3D model as well as the trail displaying the 3D view.

The only thing missing are the roll/picth/yaw. If they are recorded by Fly is Fun, maybe there is another format you can output from it which will expose that information for Tacview.
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Re: How to view kml tracks from Fly Is Fun on Tackview
« Reply #5 on: February 26, 2019, 08:39:39 PM »
Should I purchase a license to see it?
 Because when I try to load the track i get the error mnessage, telling me that this format is not supported by tackview
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Re: How to view kml tracks from Fly Is Fun on Tackview
« Reply #6 on: February 27, 2019, 01:31:50 PM »
Oh! Yes, sorry I didn’t think about that.

Indeed, past the trial period of 21-days, you will need Tacview Standard or Advanced to open the GPX files. If this is the case, you should see a “Register your copy of Tacview” whenever you attempt to open such kind of file.
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Re: How to view kml tracks from Fly Is Fun on Tackview
« Reply #7 on: February 27, 2019, 04:02:59 PM »
Roger!
I am going to purchase  tackwiew )

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Re: How to view kml tracks from Fly Is Fun on Tackview
« Reply #8 on: November 07, 2020, 03:13:39 PM »
Dear Vyrtuoz!
 I got the Advanced Tackview!
roll pitch and yaw is not registered in gpx tracks.


May you suggest the cheapest (reasonable quality-price GPS tracker, which record roll pitch, yaw and G-forces maybe?

Thank you in advance!
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Re: How to view kml tracks from Fly Is Fun on Tackview
« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2020, 07:09:52 PM »
For GPS that records roll-pitch-yaw, I know of Stratus 2S and iLevil Sport. But they are not cheap. Maybe you can use your phone, if you can find the right app.
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Re: How to view kml tracks from Fly Is Fun on Tackview
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2020, 04:13:33 PM »
App developers supporting Stratus 3 through the GDL-90 protocol: and there is not Tackview in their list.

Did you have an experience to  import tracklogs from Stratus to Tackview.
How difficult is it?
Especially to adapt their .csv file to Tackview.
Or kml  tracklog is enough to see  pitch, roll and yaw?


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Re: How to view kml tracks from Fly Is Fun on Tackview
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2020, 07:18:38 PM »
Based on examples that have been shared with us, Tacview currently supports Stratus 2 KML files (but not CSV), and roll-pitch-yaw is included in Stratus 2 KML files.

I believe that Stratus 3 would probably be the same deal but we haven't tried it because we didn't get our hands on any sample data yet.

GDL-90 is not supported in Tacview 1 but probably will be in Tacview 2.
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Re: How to view kml tracks from Fly Is Fun on Tackview
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2020, 08:06:20 PM »
I can give you a tracklog in .csv if it helps you.
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Re: How to view kml tracks from Fly Is Fun on Tackview
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2020, 03:52:26 PM »
Sure we would love to get our hands on a CSV and a corresponding KML, and to know exactly what device it came from.
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Re: How to view kml tracks from Fly Is Fun on Tackview
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2020, 05:26:06 PM »
Great, so here you are:
3 tracks of the same flight came from Stratus 2s.

https://we.tl/t-5EvbdBkWdK

Like they are telling, "The example I sent is for ForeFlight EFB. Other EFBs can handle it differently. I would recommend talking with them to see what EFB they are going to use and then contacting the EFB manufacturer for details / questions. We only make the hardware and do not do anything on the software side.

I would ask Tackview what they support and what file formats. You would import the TrackLogs in one of the exported formats to view it.

You must have some type of EFB app to get the tracklog data off the Stratus portable"


Take a look at kml file, I see that the plane is flying with 12degrees left bank, but the heading do not change- strange.

Also, the speed in a certain period of flight is changing rapidly.

What do you think?

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