Combat Mission Shock Force 2

[Asid]

Hi Jace

I noticed it had been released but was caught up in this post . The way the developer treats the customers is 

They could take some cues from the Graviteam devs 

THANK YOU for posting the release 

[wilso845]

Hot off the press:


We're close to release, but not quite there yet!  The Demos are now out for all to enjoy while we finish things up. Let me explain...

When we set out to remake CMSF1 into CMSF2 we made a decision to release the Base Game and the three Modules all at once.  This allows people to purchase Bundles right away instead of facing the decision to buy sooner, one full priced piece at a time, or wait until we have everything out for a bulk discount.  Since it would suck for you guys to face this choice we opted to release everything at once.

The downside of releasing everything at once is having to rework the content of effectively 4 games at one time.  That's a total of something like 150 battles (stand alone + campaigns) that needed reworking.  As you can imagine it's not just adding the updated style of Briefings, it's about making sure the scenarios are properly balanced with all the game changes from the past 10 years.  Adding FoW fortifications, AI Plan overhauls, touching up maps, etc. and then going through the testing cycle make sure everything works right takes a long time to do.  More than we expected, that's for sure.

OK, OK, OK... I know you're wondering what this all means in terms of a release timeframe.  What we've decided to do is stop making you wait until every single scenario and the 6 campaigns are totally done.  Instead, we're moving towards releasing all the stand alone scenarios, the Base Game campaign (TF Lighting), and the campaign for Marines (Semper Fi!) in one go.  That's a couple hundred hours of entertainment right there, not to mention what QuickBattles adds to the mix.  That should keep you busy while we finish reworking the British and three NATO campaigns

I don't think we can get it out the door by the end of October, but we don't want it to be much longer than that.  We released Upgrade 4 at Christmas time last year and we'd rather not do that again for understandable reasons.

I'll give you guys another update at the end of the month.

Thanks for your patience!  This has been a labor of love for sure, with almost equal emphasis on both the labor and the love!

Steve

[Asid]

Shock Force 2 released

https://www.battlefront.com/shock-force-2/

CMSF2 Base Game $60.00


CMSF2 Marines Module $35.00


CMSF2 British Forces Module $35.00


CMSF2 NATO Module $35.00



Discounts when you buy module(s) + base game


CMSF2 Big Bundle  $165.00   $125.00

[General Sandman]

And here´s the page for upgrading CMSF 1 products:


https://www.battlefront.com/cmsf1-upgrades/

[Asid]

And here´s the page for upgrading CMSF 1 products:

https://www.battlefront.com/cmsf1-upgrades/

Hopefully it will not be problematic and confusing like it usually is 

[General Sandman]

And here´s the page for upgrading CMSF 1 products:

https://www.battlefront.com/cmsf1-upgrades/

Hopefully it will not be problematic and confusing like it usually is 

According the feedback in the forum its not problematic, cos people only have to fill in the old and the new serial when the installer asks about.

There are few exceptions, for exemple if someones got a retail version of CMSF 1 from somewhere else. Then the helpdesk is needed to issue the matter manually.

[General Sandman]

BTW, Brits and NATO modules arent reworked completely yet, so for now only TFT and Marines is playable. Thats my available info at least.

[Asid]

Thanks for the info Sandman 

[Beef]

I was able to upgrade to CMSF2 by contacting support. They were responsive (same day) and helpful (gave me the upgrade). My issue was that I had originally purchased the Paradox boxed version of CMSF1 at a local store (a long time ago). Battlefront said they don't track or have record of the Paradox versions sold. Fortunately for me though, I did purchase the Marine module a while ago from the BF website. Their logic was sound when they stated 'who would just by the module and not the main game?"

Now...having said that; I've played a couple of missions and am in awe. Not of the game, but of how GOD LIKE the AI is. It's very frustrating to see the AI behave as though it was impervious to weapon fire. Two LAV engage an RPG team at some distance, and are joined by a machine gun from a light vehicle. Despite this, the RPG gunner casually knocks out one of the LAVs.  I guarantee you, because I've seen this first hand, no one--not even Chuck Norris--would be able to do that. So suppression doesn't seem to me modeled--for the enemy AI that is. Meanwhile, a couple of pot shots from the AI at my soldiers and they run like pansies.

Very frustrated / disappointed. #notfun

 

[zakblood]

must admit it's a mixed bag, with some buyers saying it's good and others saying it's not a great AI either.

so i guess it really depends on your play style, your outlook and ability and understanding on how real life is and how unreal some games are, don't own any so can't really comment, played a few of their demo's, which tbh didn't make me want to go out and buy it either, but that's the point of a demo, choice, for me it was a no, but have many friends who said yes and own this and there other games and quite enjoy them.

 


so in the end you can't please everyone and each to there own

[Asid]

Now...having said that; I've played a couple of missions and am in awe. Not of the game, but of how GOD LIKE the AI is. It's very frustrating to see the AI behave as though it was impervious to weapon fire. Two LAV engage an RPG team at some distance, and are joined by a machine gun from a light vehicle. Despite this, the RPG gunner casually knocks out one of the LAVs.  I guarantee you, because I've seen this first hand, no one--not even Chuck Norris--would be able to do that. So suppression doesn't seem to me modeled--for the enemy AI that is. Meanwhile, a couple of pot shots from the AI at my soldiers and they run like pansies.

Very frustrated / disappointed. #notfun

Is it something that can/will be addressed?