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Re: Steel Beasts Dynamic Terrain Will Come After New Terrain Engine
« Reply #255 on: September 27, 2018, 12:07:57 AM »
Rinix. Did you expect any different?

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Re: Steel Beasts Dynamic Terrain Will Come After New Terrain Engine
« Reply #256 on: September 27, 2018, 12:58:22 AM »
Rinix. Did you expect any different?
Not really.
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Re: Steel Beasts Dynamic Terrain Will Come After New Terrain Engine
« Reply #257 on: October 09, 2018, 08:09:08 PM »
http://www.steelbeasts.com/topic/11147-ugv-and-uav-deployment/?tab=comments#comment-185018
This exchange pretty much confirms that we're going to have to wait until the next major version for an already completed bug fix. This means that we can forget about "At least one more free update".

http://www.steelbeasts.com/topic/11302-eta-on-terrain-patch/?page=11&tab=comments#comment-185019
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I paid for the latest version as the landscape upgrade was supposed to be included in it.

Now I have to pay again to get what I already paid for?
Just my statement:

This was the main reason for me aswell. Then i waited, waited and waited..

I know/read the reasons for that. Nevertheless i`m disappointed.
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Re: Steel Beasts Dynamic Terrain Will Come After New Terrain Engine
« Reply #258 on: October 10, 2018, 12:02:21 AM »
I understand where Inexus is coming from.

What about the people who only purchased because of the terrain? They will have to pay more now.

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Re: Steel Beasts Dynamic Terrain Will Come After New Terrain Engine
« Reply #259 on: October 10, 2018, 04:47:24 PM »
I understand where Inexus is coming from.

What about the people who only purchased because of the terrain? They will have to pay more now.
Of course, the "community" can't understand: http://www.steelbeasts.com/topic/11302-eta-on-terrain-patch/?page=11&tab=comments#comment-185054
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Did you pay 25$ just for the landscape upgrade you don't know anything about?
I didn't. I paid for the whole lot included in 4.0, that is tons of new vehicles, lot of them crewable (T-55 :x), and lot of other cool new features! Check out the release notes, that is what you paid for!
http://www.steelbeasts.com/updates/SBProPE_4-0_RN.pdf
Is the landscape upgrade such a big deal to you?
The new terrain engine is not some unknown. It was a major promised feature of 4.0, which appeared prominently in multiple trailers. We know that it will be a major improvement in resolution over the 12.5 meter resolution we have now. We know that it will have delta maps for per-scenario modifications to map data. We know that it will change the file system for maps.

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In the next version, you might have so much more than the landscape upgrade, well worth 25$ to me (if same price).

Just my 2 cents..
We'll also have a broken contract to deliver the new terrain engine with 4.0, because as I've pointed out before, that's exactly what has happened.
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Re: Steel Beasts Dynamic Terrain Will Come After New Terrain Engine
« Reply #260 on: October 11, 2018, 12:56:58 AM »
http://www.steelbeasts.com/topic/11302-eta-on-terrain-patch/?page=11&tab=comments#comment-185060
At least there's some good news.
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I can certainly relate to the disappointment. At the same time I have to look at the practocalities of a rollout. The best compromise that I can offer is that the next upgrade will be reduced in price, and will contain a lot more than just the new terrain engine. We did a bit more in the last two years than to redesign the file handling. :)
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Re: Steel Beasts Dynamic Terrain Will Come After New Terrain Engine
« Reply #261 on: October 11, 2018, 02:45:49 PM »
Some good news indeed.

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Re: Steel Beasts Dynamic Terrain Will Come After New Terrain Engine
« Reply #262 on: October 12, 2018, 04:44:55 PM »
http://www.steelbeasts.com/topic/11302-eta-on-terrain-patch/?page=11&tab=comments#comment-185083
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I'm pretty certain about "similar requirements", yes.

Most of the "costs" of the new engine are already in 4.0 (that's why you have a lower frame rate than in 3.0); one of the activities we invested in was to make 4.1 perform with higher frame rates.

Thanks to Frankie for prompting this response: http://www.steelbeasts.com/topic/11302-eta-on-terrain-patch/?page=11&tab=comments#comment-185084
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The final decision hasn't been made yet, so I'll refrain from going into detail until we know for certain what we're going to release, and when. At that point, following eSim traditions, there will be a near-full disclosure of new features (leaving a few extras for you to discover after purchase).
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Re: Steel Beasts Dynamic Terrain Will Come After New Terrain Engine
« Reply #263 on: October 16, 2018, 04:33:42 PM »
http://www.steelbeasts.com/topic/11302-eta-on-terrain-patch/?page=12&tab=comments#comment-185174
After some other members post about how we should be satisfied, Ssnake responds:
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The patch idea was floated in the immediate aftermath of the 2016 release when "we thought"(TM) that we could fix things quickly. Once that this window of opportunity (WOO) closed this no longer was a practical idea.
At some point you have too many code branches and must consolidate them. Which means to conflate the pure engine update (that you promised to deliver, for free) with all the feature updates that you've been working on after said WOO closed. So, I'm 100% guilty of being overly excited in April 2016 when I shouldn't have mentioned the new terrain, and blurting it out in public. I said it before, I'll repeat it now: I'm really, really sorry about this.
The temptation is strong to list all the other things we've been working on in the past two years, but the only way to learn from 2016 is to not tell you about it until after we're certain to have a viable new product, and that will be decided upon some time in January, February 2019.
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Re: Steel Beasts Dynamic Terrain Will Come After New Terrain Engine
« Reply #264 on: October 17, 2018, 01:15:26 PM »
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Re: Steel Beasts Dynamic Terrain Will Come After New Terrain Engine
« Reply #265 on: October 17, 2018, 03:52:12 PM »
Meanwhile, the "community" got so insistent that Ssnake repeat his previous mistake that Ssnake had to flat out say "no".
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