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ISM Group Build - Revell 1:72 Su-27 SM Flanker
« on: December 31, 2015, 09:09:01 PM »
Hi all

I'm doing a group build over at International Scale Modeller and I thought I would share my progress here for anyone interested in scale modelling. It'll likely be slow going as I've got 4 months to complete it - and I have other things pulling on my time.

I'm by no stretch of the imagination a great modeller - but I learn new techniques all the time and I pick up some great ideas from the site.

Anyway - I'll copy and paste my posts here.

Hi all.

Very nervous. First GB and I'm full of trepidation because I've seen the quality of the work from members around here. I'm a very, very amateur modeller who makes about 2 or 3 models a year...so I'll bring what I can to this build.

This will be an OOB (out of the box) build. No after market parts. That's partly because I'm a tight sod - but also, I like to make do with what I'm given.

Anyway - the subject matter...

The Revell 1:72 Su-27 SM Flanker


A small video of it's entertainment value from Youtube
 

And some information (from wiki)

Su-27
The Sukhoi Su-27 (Russian: Сухой Су-27) (NATO reporting name: Flanker) is a twin-engine super manoeuvrable fighter aircraft designed by Sukhoi. It was intended as a direct competitor for the large United States fourth-generation fighters such as the Grumman F-14 Tomcat and F-15 Eagle, with 3,530-kilometre (1,910 nmi) range, heavy aircraft ordnance, sophisticated avionics and high manoeuvrability. The Su-27 most often flies air supremacy missions, but its most modern variants are able to perform almost all aerial warfare operations. Complementing the smaller MiG-29, the Su-27 has its closest US counterpart in the F-15 Eagle.

The Su-27 entered service with the Soviet Air Forces in 1985. The primary role was long range air defence against American SAC B-1B and B-52G/H bombers, protecting the Soviet coast from aircraft carriers and flying long range fighter escort for Soviet heavy bombers such as the Tu-95 "Bear", Tu-22M "Backfire" and Tu-160 "Blackjack".

There are several related developments of the Su-27 design. The Su-30 is a two-seat, dual-role fighter for all-weather, air-to-air and air-to-surface deep interdiction missions. The Su-33 'Flanker-D' is a naval fleet defence interceptor for use on aircraft carriers. Further versions include the side-by-side two-seat Su-34 'Fullback' strike/fighter-bomber variant, and the Su-35 'Flanker-E' improved air superiority and multi-role fighter. The Shenyang J-11 is a Chinese licence-built version of the Su-27.

This machine can perform the manoeuvre known as Pugachev's Cobra so beautifully shown in the video above.  The manoeuvre involves dynamic deceleration with briefly sustained level flight at a 120° angle of attack


Armament
It's armament for the Su-27 SM variant includes
1 × 30 mm GSh-30-1 cannon with 150 rounds
8 x R-77 advanced medium-range missile
6 x KAB-500KR and KAB-500L guided bombs
4 x Kh-29T/L air to surface missile
4 x Kh-31P/A anti-radar/ship missiles
4 x Kh-35 anti-ship missile

Here's the full wiki page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sukhoi_Su-27

And some info from the model instructions


Well - here goes...good luck to everyone   :cheers2:
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Re: ISM Group Build - Revell 1:72 Su-27 SM Flanker
« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2015, 09:10:36 PM »
The Sprues

Lee's pet hate - sprues in one bag!


And each of the sprues - the detail isn't bad and there's virtually no flash - I mean almost ZERO flash. That's a good start.








The glass isn't amazing...


And the decals...there are lots and lots. I have to be honest, but the decals are always my least favourite part of building a model and made worse with modern aircraft having so many!
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Re: ISM Group Build - Revell 1:72 Su-27 SM Flanker
« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2015, 09:11:04 PM »
The Build Instructions
It doesn't look too difficult on the face of it...but it is Revell, so I expect there may be a few issues along the way









The colour callouts and decal positions  :ooops:



And the weapon specific colour callout and decals page
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Re: ISM Group Build - Revell 1:72 Su-27 SM Flanker
« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2015, 11:27:05 PM »
This is Great JD. I am really looking forward to this. Interesting subject matter.

When I did builds which required the graphics to be placed. I always got into trouble. It always ended up looking messy. Patience. A steady hand and washing up liquid helped.

Thanks for doing this.

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Re: ISM Group Build - Revell 1:72 Su-27 SM Flanker
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2015, 11:41:26 PM »
Thanks Asid.

The ISM Group Build is "From Russia with Love" and anyone can enter anything created in Russia. Civilian vehicles, military, WWII, Modern, air, sea, land...it's all available. There's someone doing some "Napoleonic" era artillery figures

I happened to have this baby in my collection of unmade models (a modest 10 deep)...so I thought I would enter it.

There's also a Group Build later in the year called "I Heart Tamiya" - and anything Tamiya related can be entered - and I have a Chieftain tank in my stash for that one.

ISM give out prizes from their sponsors for the top 3 kit builds in each GB (Group Build) and SiG (Special Interest Group) and it's a great community for modellers.

If anyone s interested it's at http://www.intscalemodeller.com/
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Re: ISM Group Build - Revell 1:72 Su-27 SM Flanker
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2016, 01:00:45 AM »
Nice

How about some close ups of the Chieftain tank. That is if you have opened the box.

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Re: ISM Group Build - Revell 1:72 Su-27 SM Flanker
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2016, 01:45:54 AM »
Nice

How about some close ups of the Chieftain tank. That is if you have opened the box.

Regards
I can't open that yet as it's an "new" build...in other words, cannot be seen to be started. I could, perhaps, open the box and show the sprues through  the plastic bags - but I can't open the plastic bags...it's da rule!

It is Tamiya...so it's possible that the sprues show up in individual bags and therefore available to view...I'll look tomorrow - it's late
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Re: ISM Group Build - Revell 1:72 Su-27 SM Flanker
« Reply #7 on: February 04, 2016, 09:32:13 PM »
I've started - yaaay!

This will be slow as the super fantastic 6 Nations is on for the next 6 weeks and I'll be drunk most weekends (as a Scot, it's the only way to get through it)

Anyway. I made a start before I head off to Murrayfield to watch Scotland take on the mighty Auld Enemy.

It seems rather strange, but I've started at step 21. The reason for doing so is because the glue needs to set. The step is putting the nose weight in.

So - step 21 is putting 10g of weight in the nose


First, getting the nose off, I had a bit of sanding to do to get rid of the sprue connections.

For that I used UMP Coarse sanding stick rubbed very lightly and then some UMP Fine sanding stick to remove any impressions the coarse stick left.



Next, get some PVA into the nose and wipe it around. This was just a precaution measure to make sure the weight I was putting in would have something to bind to the side. I then put 9g of weight in using Liquid Gravity



I then topped up the nose cone with PVA glue which took the weight to 11g


I was rather surprised at how much 10g actually was...I didn't think it was all going to fit in.

Hopefully, jumping ahead to this step is not an issue. I knew I had to put nose weight in and I knew it would have to set, so I decided to do it early.

And that's that. Sorry for getting your hopes up...I know there's not a lot here. But I do hope to get cracking in Feb and March (rugby aside).
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Re: ISM Group Build - Revell 1:72 Su-27 SM Flanker
« Reply #8 on: February 05, 2016, 10:32:26 PM »
Fantastic :)

Quick question. Why the nose weight?

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Re: ISM Group Build - Revell 1:72 Su-27 SM Flanker
« Reply #9 on: February 06, 2016, 02:06:46 AM »
I'm guessing the model is tail-heavy without the 10g for counter-balance when sitting on wheels
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Re: ISM Group Build - Revell 1:72 Su-27 SM Flanker
« Reply #10 on: February 06, 2016, 10:31:14 AM »
I would have thought that the kit could have been manufactured taking centre of gravity into consideration. At the least maybe provide some weight.

Hang it from the ceiling  :-*
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Re: ISM Group Build - Revell 1:72 Su-27 SM Flanker
« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2016, 10:16:50 AM »
A lot of non tail draggers require weight in the model. It's been a "thing" since modelling began as far as I can remember.

I recall making models as a kid and not knowing too much, never put anything in the nose and the nosewheel would always be up in the air.

It's down to the modeller to deal with the nose staying down - not the model company.

This is a tip I've heard about just recently. I've only built one non-tail dragger recently and that was the Me262 - which I used a chunk of BluTac for. Now I've found this Liquid Gravity things are looking easier. There's other things you can use as well, lead being the best (I think) giving the best weight to size ratio.
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Re: ISM Group Build - Revell 1:72 Su-27 SM Flanker
« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2016, 08:58:05 PM »
In case anyone is wondering what Liquid Gravity looks like once the PVA is settled....



Sorry progress is slow. It's a result of the 6 Nations on weekends I'm afraid.
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Re: ISM Group Build - Revell 1:72 Su-27 SM Flanker
« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2016, 08:59:56 PM »
Thanks for taking the time to show the little details JD :)

Oh and 6 nations....... ::)
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Re: ISM Group Build - Revell 1:72 Su-27 SM Flanker
« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2016, 10:04:34 PM »
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Oh and 6 nations....... ::)
Whatevs!!  :)
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